Moving notes with ledger lines
Working with piano music. I have moved notes using Ctrl+E+>+esc. The notes are below the staff, and have ledger lines. The notes move, but the ledger lines remain where they are. They do not move with the notes. Is there a way to fix this?
Thank you
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Why are you moving the note in this way? To alter the pitch of the note use the arrow keys (Up/Down). To alter the pitch by an octave use [Ctrl]-arrow key. To move the note (and sort out the ledger lines automatically) but keep the pitch change the "Fix to line" value via Inspector. To move the note to another stave (and keep the same pitch) use [Ctrl][Shift]-arrow.
Indeed, the only reason to use Ctrl+E (edit mode) is to make fine adjustments to the position of the notehead - these adjustments are not meant for ordinary editing of notes in terms of pitch or time position. For flipping notes to the opposite side of the stem, there is Shift+X. To move entire chords - which is also unusual, but in compelx piano music with more than two voices, can come up from time to time - use the Inspector to move the whole chord (all noteheads plus stem and other elements). Edit mode for individual noteheads should virtually never be needed, in the rare cases where you do need to make this sort of fine adjustment, it would not be uncommon to want independent control of the different elements of note (head, stem, etc).
In reply to Indeed, the only reason to by Marc Sabatella
Thank you for your previous email about Cross Staff Beaming. I was able to put that to good use. After I received your email about the ledger lines, wondering why I was wanting to do this, I didn’t worry about it (too much to explain). But you have been good enough to contact me again, so here is my explanation (if you have time to read it!)
The music is Die Stadt, a Liszt transposition of Schubert’s music. It is complex music, and I have had to use two voices in lots of parts. All the small notes in bar 29 (of Attachment 3), for instance, are in 2nd voice.
Attachment 1 : the first two bars are those to which I am referring. This attachment is scanned from the original music. I copied it because I wanted it to be more readable, and also because I like using MuseScore!
Attachment 2 : Bar 46. This was practice, and shows the ‘errant’ ledger lines I was asking about. When I moved the chord to line up with the bass clef G note, it didn’t want to be there and so, I guess, left the lines but didn’t attach them to the notes.
Attachment 3. I am talking here about bars 29 and 30.
I have realised that I can move chords only 10 spaces using the Inspector. But if it is a single note, it will move many more times if I repeat the action several times. Note the Bass clef octave G chord in bar 30. . . To get it to where it is, I moved it as a single G note, and then added the other G to make it a chord.
That is the procedure I used to get the final result in bar 29 (using single Gs, and then adding the chord notes [after changing the double-dotted crochets to minims at the beginning of the bar]). The ledger lines are still a bit questionable here, but it looks a lot tidier this way.
So that is my half-OK solution … unless you have another one?
Thank you again
Kind regards
Nike
In reply to Thank you for your previous by nike1
I don't see any attachments, so I can't say for sure what is going on. So in particular, I don't know why notes in bar 46 might seem like they need to be moved to line up. In the vast majority of cases, notes should already line up according to standard rules of music notation and standard principles of music engraving. In cases where there are *more* than two vocies per staff, it can sometimes be necessary to manually align the third and fourth voices as desired. But even so, it would never normally be necessary to move them by more than 1sp or so. Certianly it should *never* be necessary to move notes more than 10sp. So I can only guess you are doing something wrong - like entering notes on different beats and then trying to manually align to look as if they are on the same beat. that is not going to work - the results are going to be too dependent on the accients of how wide the measure happens to be in the current layout with the current font size etc. if you want notes to align, you simply need to enter them on the same beat. I'm thinking maybe you failed to enter leading rests nd are instead entering notes one beat 1 in voice 2 then trying to manually move them to line up with some other beat. if so, you delete delete those notes, and re-enter them after entering enough leading rests to get the notes onto the proper beat so there is no need to move them. If the musician situatin is one in which those leading rests don't need to be shown according standard rules of notation/engraving, then you can mark the leading rests invisible if you like.