Symphonic Orchestra Template
I don't know if someone has done this already but I created a template for a full symphonic orchestra. Comments? Suggestions?
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I don't know if someone has done this already but I created a template for a full symphonic orchestra. Comments? Suggestions?
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It's tough to say what might be "standard" instrumentation for a large orchestra, but you've definitely got a pretty complete set of instruments in there, and it's easier to delete ones you don't need than add ones you do, so I'd say that looks good! But in an orchestra that size, wouldn't you be likely have two oboes and two bassoons, as well as a contrabassoon? And as long as you're trying to be complete, maybe add a euphonium?
I also wonder about the ordering. I've never worked with an orchestra score quite that large, but is it common to separate the clarinet and saxophone families in the way you have? Smaller scores I've worked with usually put all the woodwinds in one group, high to low.
Is that a standard paper size? In the US, "Tabloid" (11x17") would probably be the most common size; I imagine in Europe it would be something similar but slightly different. I find it better to make a template the smaller of the two regional standards, as being printed a little too small for the larger paper beats having it too big for the smaller paper.
One last thing in case you weren't aware - for use as a template, it seems best to delete all measures before saving. Otherwise you don't get the right number of measures when you use the Create New Score wizard.
FWIW, what I personally would find most useful would be a template for an orchestra of a size between the existing "Chamber Orchestra" and yours. Something like 2 flutes, 2 oboes, 2 clarinets, bass clarinet, 2 bassoons, contrabassoon; 4 horns, 2 trumpets, 2 trombones, bass trombone, tuba; percussion, timpani; harp; violin I/II, viola, cello, double bass.
Well, scoring is very different for every song. I, for one, never start a new song without adjusting which instruments I have, etc. I actually created a template, but it is only a general idea for a symphonic orchestra score.
Anyway, here are some suggestions:
In most cases (no definite rule), you'll have Piccolo, Flutes, Oboe(s), English Horn, Clarinets, THEN Bassoon at the end of that section (I don't really know why. Probably just so that you can keep the low voices, the bass clarinet and bassoon, together). If you do this, bracket all the way from Piccolo to Bassoon.
Generally in orchestras (and even some symphonic bands), there will be two oboe parts and two bassoon parts. This is certainly not required; I'm just throwing out some information you might want.
Eb Clarinet should be just above the 1st Bb Clarinet since it is pitched higher.
Several bands have an Eb Alto Clarinet between 3rd Clarinet and Bb Bass Clarinet.
VERY few symphonic orchestras have a soprano saxophone. Instead they have two alto saxophone parts.
Glockenspiel and Timpani should come before percussion.
Piano and Harp don't really have much business being in the same score. I mean, there's no rule against it, but generally they play the same thing. I'm not going to tell you what instruments you can and can't use, but a piano AND a harp is a little extreme. If you have something in mind which requires both (or if you're writing for a band that has both), go right ahead. If you keep both, they don't need to be bracketed.
I've attached my own template in case you'd like to use it or just look at it as a guide (it has some optional instruments).
I hope I've been helpful in some way. Good luck!
I was using the instrumentation and order that I found on wikipedia (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphonic_orchestra#Modern_Orchestra) with a couple minor tweaks here and there. However, I did overlook the extra oboes and bassoons, so I've added those, and a contrabassoon and a euphonium as well. As for the order of the woodwinds: I started with the concert band template and just added on the extra instruments. I have changed that to a more normal order as well, and I bracketed all the woodwinds together. For the piano and the harp: that's a good point. I took out the piano, but I suppose it would be pretty easy to change the harp to a piano if you wanted to. I then bracketed the harp along with the strings. Thank you both for your suggestions!
In reply to I was using the by musiclover007
Your template is much more complete now, though a few minor adjustments should be made.
Saxophones should come after Contrabassoon and before Horns.
The first bracket (the normal one, not the curved accolade) should go from piccolo to contrabassoon. Then another bracket from Alto Saxophone 1 to Baritone Saxophone. Also, the harp should have a bracket of its own, not share one with the strings. Same with the timpani and glockenspiel.
The curved brackets (accolades) should be used only to link different parts for the same instrument. The first accolade should be from Flute 1 to Flute 2. Then Oboe 1 to Oboe 2. Then Bb Clarinet 1 to Bb Clarinet 3. Then Bassoon 1 to Bassoon 2. Then Alto Saxophone 1 to Alto Saxophone 2.