Trill with accidental "on the line"
This trill is from an edition published by Oxford University Press in 1925. I have never seen this notation used, with the accidental positioned right on the trill line. Does anyone know what this notation means, in a violin part?
And how should it best be represented in a more conventional way?
I have read "How to create trills and ornaments with accidentals (and playback)" :
https://musescore.org/en/node/277181
but it doesn't cover this specific case where the accidental is positioned on the trill line (neither above nor below).
Comments
This doesn't answer the question, but neither have I - maybe they were being cocky over there in "Oggsford"? Probably it is the equivalent to the sharp being above or to the right of the tr symbol.
In reply to This doesn't answer the… by worldwideweary
I don't exactly remember how this 'thing' should be set nowadays, but you also asked, what it actually means: normally, we should trill with the diatonic next higher note (in this case 'c'), but with this given sharpsign we had to trill with a c#.
In reply to I don't exactly remember how… by olivo
Yes, that is how a trill with an accidental is played if it is notated with the accidental above or immediately to the right of the tr. But the question being asked by the OP is "what does an accidental within the wavy trill line mean?" My best guess is that the sharp should have been been placed immediately after the tr and obscuring the start of the wavy line, but it slipped to the right during printing.
In reply to Yes, that is how a trill… by SteveBlower
What should slip in 1925 during printing? I bet, this notation was precisely done as meant to: trill with c# (or d flat), which seems to perfectly fit in the current harmonic environment...
In reply to Yes, that is how a trill… by SteveBlower
At this point I have to intervene and offer my apologies for wasting everyone's time. The answer is plain in the full score (i.e. violin + piano) for this work:
I can only assume that the (OUP!) engraver decided to save vertical space in order to fit more systems onto this page in the solo violin part. In any case, I can now confidently use "sharp above the trill line" as usual.
Thank you to all those who responded!
In reply to At this point I have to… by DanielR
An off day by the engraver then. OUP should have used MuseScore!
In reply to At this point I have to… by DanielR
I think the sharp sign at the top has somehow shifted down (maybe accidentally/overlooked).