Multi measure rests

• Dec 20, 2024 - 01:56

I do saxophone transcriptions of jazz solos. So first I write out the melody as played by the artist then I transcribe the solo that the artist plays. After the saxophone solo there might be a trumpet solo,then a piano solo. I don't transcribe these solos. So for example if the sax solo is 64 bars I write that out but now the trumpet player takes a solo I just want to put a 64 bar multi measure rest. or for however long the trumpet solo is. Then I do the same for the piano, So what I am asking is HOW CAN I MAKE MULTI MEASURE RESTS IN DIFFERENT GROUPINGS? For example I just finished a Cannonball adderley solo on the tune "Work Song" Cannonballs solo is 48 bars long then there is a coronet solo that is 48 bars long. I don't transcribe that but in the chart I want to show there is a 48 bar rest. Then after that a 48 bar piano solo wich I will show with a 48 bar multi measure rest. After that the melody is played I transcribe that and the tune ends.
Can someone help me with this. It was a very simple thing to do in FINALE. What happens now is I go to Musescore i- Format-Style- Rests- I activate "multi measure rests" and all the empty bars become one large multi measure rest in the Cannonball tune I get a 96 bar multiple measure rest, What I want is two seperate 48 multi measure rests. ANY HELP IS MUCH APPRECIATED. respond to this post or email me at brooklynbrassreed@gmail.com


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So, create your main score for sax, trumpet, piano, and any other instruments. Leave empty measures for instruments that are not playing while other(s) are playing. When you are done with entering all the notes for all the instruments in the main score, you can open individual parts which will display multimeasure rests where the instrument is silent.
See:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/parts#opening-a-part
...and watch the animated gif where you will observe the multimeasure rests appear in the part for a single instrument (Violoncello in the gif).

On the other hand, if you are writing each instrument part separately (each as a different MuseScore file) then leave blank measures and only activate multimeasure rests when you have finished entering the notes. Multimeasure rests can be toggled on/off with the keyboard shortcut M (prior to 4.4), Ctrl+Shift M (as of 4.4, Mac: Cmd+Shift+M),
See:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/measure-rests-and-multimeasure-rest…

In reply to by redrube

@redrude... You just now wrote:
> I have 96 bars and I want to create two 48 multi bar multi rest sections. How do I do that?? <

Now that's a good question. You are correct. I did not read that question.
Your original question...
> So what I am asking is HOW CAN I MAKE MULTI MEASURE RESTS IN DIFFERENT GROUPINGS? <
...was more general; and so, therefore, was my response -- referencing both an ensemble score, and an individual part score. An individual part can have different groupings of multimeasure rests, depending on wherever and however long that part remains silent.
In fact, in your first post, you also wrote:
> I just want to put a 64 bar multi measure rest, or for however long the trumpet solo is. <
Okay, so here you talk about 64 bars and not 96/48 bars, and then later ramble on about Cannonball (zzz... ;-).

In any event, see this link - to which I earlier referred you:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/measure-rests-and-multimeasure-rest…
Your answer lies within.

P.S. See? I did read your question. Did you read that link?

In reply to by Jm6stringer

hey jm6stringer
thanks for getting back to me. Sorry i do ramble on sometimes.
Yes my question was:
I have 96 bars and I want to create two 48 multi bar multi rest sections. How do I do that??
Someone answered: Double bar lines break multi measures rests.
That was the answer i was looking for. simple and to the point.
Yes, I have been reading the link you sent me. I am new to Musescore. I switched from Finale I find the Musescore handbook more complicated than it needs to be, Cryptic.Not written by practicing musicians. But I'll get it.
thanks again
redrube

In reply to by redrube

"Not written by practicing musicians" You would be mistaken in that. Most (all?) of the Handbook was, in fact, written by practicing musicians. However, musicians are not necessarily good writers of clear instructions (some are, some are not). Since you're such a good writer, perhaps we can count on you updating the Handbook.

(It's in transition right now and is locked, but after it's unlocked in its new location, we'll expect you to be updating it regularly.)

In reply to by TheHutch

ooh touched a nerve there. I just started using Musescore a few weeks ago. I got a very simple answer to a very simple question from the forum. The handbook, well I looked at it after words and found the answer but it was not so straight forward. Who's we? When you say "we'll expect you to be updating regularly".

In reply to by redrube

That was sarcasm. You were complaining about the writing, so I sarcastically suggested that you obviously could do a better job. :-)

At the moment, no one can update the Handbook. It is locked while the developers move it to a new location (on GitHub). In the past, it was available for anyone to update; I don't know what the situation will be in its new location.

There are many and simple ways. Here is the handbook chapter on breaking mulitmeasure rests.

For me, the main ones being:

  • double barlines breaks muli measure rests. In general, I find double bar lines to be very useful in a jazz score to separate choruses and even within a chores to separate the eight-measure parts. In a ABAC format tune I would put double barlines like this: A ‖ B ‖ A ‖ C
  • Rehearsal marks.
  • You can select a measure and explicitly say it should break a multi measure rest, see the link above.

In reply to by redrube

Did you read the handbook articles that are linked to in those answers. They should help you do what i think you are asking about.

Specifically, follow this link https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/measure-rests-and-multimeasure-rest… which was provided in the later answer and deals with breaking multimeasure rests, and this link https://musescore.org/en/handbook/4/measure-rests-and-multimeasure-rest… provided in the first answer which deals with multimeasure rests in general.

It is usually more helpful to show where in the handbook the carefully crafted explanation is located than to recreate an explanation "on the fly" and end up with something more confusing.

If, after reading that bit of the handbook you still can't work it out, come back with further questions.

In reply to by redrube

I certainly did read your question. Did you read my answer, including the link to the handbook where this is described?

You want to break/split a 96-measure multi-measure rest into two 48-measure multi-measure rests. That is exactly what the question I answered.

Multi measure rests are interupted/broken by double barlines, or rehearsal marks, for instance. That means if you add a double bar line after the 48th bar/measure, or a rehearsal mark on the 49th measure, you will have two multi measure rests.

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