Inputting Grand Staff information at same time
So here's another simple question that I haven't found an answer to, and I feel knowing this might quicken my writing. If I have a grand staff, is there a way to input using a midi keyboard to both the bass clef and treble clef? Meaning, any notes below middle C will go onto the bass and on or above will go to the treble? This would save me a great amount of time writing out chords.
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I don't see how that would work or help. You have to enter notes left to right anyhow. So enter the top staff notes for a measure, then move to the bottom staff and enter those notes. This is faster, not slower, than constantly changing staves. Besides, simply puttig all notes below middle C on the below staff would almost never produce the right answer. You'd spend more time still fixing the very cases where that is not correct - far longer than simpt entering it correctly in the first place.
In reply to I don't see how that would by Marc Sabatella
The whole point would be to do extended chords with both hands quickly, and do the progressions quickly. Otherwise I need to input the right hand then put in the bottom part of the part. It would be quick if I could input quarter note, then just play my chord progression, and bam. If not possible, hey, that's cool. Worth a shot.
In reply to The whole point would be to by ZackP
The thing, the two hands almost never have the same rhythm. So what you describe simply would not work. You would constantly need to be switching staves, resetting the note durations as you go, and it would be far more work than entering the hands separately.
If you happen to be creating music where the two hands *do* happen to have the same rhyhtm, you could input it all on the top staff, then right click and use Split Staff to split it. Or enter the music into a sequencer then import the resulting MIDI file.
In reply to The thing, the two hands by Marc Sabatella
I have the same question and concern.When I write music by hand I write bass clef notes below middle C on the bass clef and treble clef notes above middle c on the treble clef. By your answer I'm not sure if Musescore does this or does not do this.If I press tenor C, I want to see the note appear on the second space of the bass clef. If I press the c note three octaves below middle c , I want to see the note appear on the bass clef two lines below the g line of the bass clef. If I press c one octave above middle c I want to see it show on the treble clef on the third space . Will Musescore do this ?
Back in Elizabethan Virginal times, they did not have two staffs, but only one with about fifteen lines, The middle line was middle c on the keyboard.
Thank you
Antoni Scott
In reply to I have the same question and by Antoni Scott
As with most notation programs, you need to tell the program which staff you want to enter music onto. First click the measure / staff you wish, then enter note input mode, then start entering ntoes. It's pretty much the exact same process for MuseScore, FInale, Sibelius, and other notation programs. Having the program guess which staff based on how high or low the note is would not be good; it's not uncommon to need notes below middle C on the top staff and notes above middle C on the bottom staff, so you'd constantly have to corrrect the wrong guesses.
In reply to As with most notation by Marc Sabatella
Hello Marc:
I know it's not uncommon to need notes below middle C on the top staff and notes above middle C on the bottom staff, but in hand-written music writing I never see tenor C expressed as a note on the Treble Clef or for that matter the C above middle C expressed as a note on the Bass Clef. I'm guessing that the program just can't split a keyboard at middle C and express notes on the bass clef and treble clef independently.
If anybody knows this definitively I would like to hear from them.
In reply to Hello Marc: I know it's not by Antoni Scott
This really would not make sense when first entering notes. The input would constantly be jumping back and forth between staves. This would be a nightmare for you to keep track of, since the two staves would be at different time positions, so the cursor would also be jumping forwards and backwards. It really is best for you to enter the music on each staff separately, and that is why pretty much every notation program ever does it that way.
However, MuseScore *does* have a function that will split a staff into two *after* you have entered all the music. So if you have a single staff containing all notes for the piano part - this would normally result from MIDI import, not soemthing you'd enter directly - then you can right click the staff and choose Split Staff, then specify a note to serve as the split point.
In reply to This really would not make by Marc Sabatella
Hi Marc:
I am new to Musescore. I really like the way it puts music notes on the computer screen in response to my MIDI manual key inputs. After working with the basics, I loaded MuseScore onto my digital organ ( called Hauptwerk) which is powered by a MacOSX 10.10. I noticed that playing a scale resulted in the notes bunching up like a chord then after four or five notes it would move to the next portion of the bar and do the same thing. I don't how to fix this. It doesn't do this on my other computer, the notes display in a chromatic scale as I play them.
Also, where can I find the "Split Staff" option ?
I wish it were possible to actually have an "on-line "chat with someone.
In reply to Hi Marc: I am new to by Antoni Scott
As I said, the Split Staff function is in the menu that appears when you right click a staff.
I would suggest you read the Handbook sections on note input thoroughly, also watch the tutorial videos available on the main page of this site (musescore.org). They do a very good job of explaining how note input works.
MIDI input is possible but only one note at a tome, as explained in the Handbook. Mso be sure you release one note before playing the next, also be sure you select the appropriate duration for each. In general, MIDI is not a more efficient way of inoutting notes than simply typing them as explained in the Handbook, so if you are having trouble with your MIDI keyboard, you really don't lose anything by simply typing.
In reply to As I said, the Split Staff by Marc Sabatella
Hi Marc:
Thanks for the responses. Although the musical note presentation is very professional looking, the ability to input bass notes and treble notes while I am playing both bass and treble on the keyboard is not possible.
I find this to be too cumbersome and interferes with my ability to compose on the fly. It is easier to write the notes in the proper clef's by hand. I have tried Sibelius and Finale and they all the same. Too bad.
Antoni gf
In reply to Hi Marc: Thanks for the by Antoni Scott
I really think you are misunderstanding the difficulty of trying to have notes automatically assigned to ifferent staves and how disruptive it would be to have the note input cursor constantly jumping between up and down and also forwards and backwards. It just wouldn't be viable. You might imagine it would be easier, but the reality is it would not be, which is, again, why no program does it that way. It sounds nice in theory, but it is just totally unworkable in practice.