(very) extended Jazz chords
Hi all,
I tried to search if this is already answered but didn't find the solution. Sometimes I'm writing Jazz sheets in MuseScore and the chords are not using only one but multiple extensions. So it's something like Gb with extensions 7, 9 and +11 and Db in the bass. When I try to enter such a chord it doesn't look very "readable". Is there something I'm missing?
Thanks and best regards,
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There should only be one slash, between the chord and the bass note. No slashes within the chord. Also, you shouldn't list both he 7 and 9 - 9 always implies 7. So the correct way to write that chord is simply Gb9#11/Db. That's assuming you mean the "+" to mean sharp - it's ambiguous and not recommended for that reason. If you actually meant the other meaning of "+" - "add" - then now your chord is actually just Gb11/Db. Or, if you meant it to be "augmented" (as in #5), then Gb9#5/Db, except I wouldn't be sure what you meant about the 11, so I'm assuming you didn't mean that.
Gb9(#11)/Db
In reply to Gb9(#11)/Db by Ziya Mete Demircan
Yes, that too :-). Parens are a stylistic choice, some editors use them for this, others don't. To me, it's not worth the pace they take except when it clarifies something that would otherwise seem confusing, like Cmi(ma7).
HI all,
thanks for your comments. I didn't just invent this chord on my own but I've seen it with all the mentioned extensions in a professional transcription of Oscar Peterson solos. That's why I tried to do this also inside MuseScore. There are also chords like F 7,9,13 or Bb7,#5,#9 . And I'm not sure about the automatic inclusion of 7 in a 9 chord. Couldn't it also be a 6, 9 chord or the 7 could be minor or major - or I don't play 7 at all but only 9?
In reply to HI all, thanks for your… by Gelbaerchen
Hmm, which publisher uses that notation? Can you post a picture? It's definitely not standard and not recommended. Just use the standard notation we described instead. Commas are fine, so no problem with F7,9,13 - just not slashes.
F9 definitely includes the 7. F6/9 - the only place where slashes are sometimes included within chord symbols - is a different animal, and yes, in that case, no 7 is implied. All other cases it is. C9 has the same seventh (Bb) as C7, Cma9 has the same seventh (B) as Cma7.
In reply to Hmm, which publisher uses… by Marc Sabatella
Brazilian common(?) practice in chord notation do not imply the seventh in a X9 chord. It is more usual (by far) to write X7(9).
In reply to Brazilian common(?) practice… by mtuliosax
"does" not imply.
In reply to Brazilian common(?) practice… by mtuliosax
Noted. In the rest of the world that is occasionally found as well, but definitely more rare. In any case, that works too. Only slashes used where commas or parentheses are meant won't, because that has a very specific meaning of specifying an alternate bass note.