volta brackets

• Dec 30, 2017 - 18:28

I can not edit the volta brackets.
I do get into edit mode, but that means only that it says "edit mode" at the bottom of the screen. I can do NOTHING to edit the text.

And why are there 3 closed brackets named "1." "2." "3." to choose from, but only "2" is an OPEN bracket?

And don't tell me to click, double click or ctrl+E. That's what I'm doing. Nothing happens. I use a MacBook, does that matter?

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• Dec 30, 2017 - 18:44

On Mac, it is Ctrl+click (equivalent of "right click" on other systems) to access Volta Properties.

This dialog lets you edit the text as well as change between closed and open brackets. The standard is to use closed brackets for all but the last volta of a sequence, and since "1" is never normally last, there is no open version of it. Probably the 3 should have been in the palette as open by default.

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• Dec 30, 2017 - 20:09

Thanks!
I'm not only struggling with trying to get things to work technically, - also musically, I'm not exactly sure how to do with brackets, segno and coda signs... but I'm working on it...

I want to "notate" my songs as simplistic as possible, but at the same time as complete as possible, and those two are not so easy to combine...

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• Dec 31, 2017 - 12:48

Yes, thanks, but I have a little bit of problem with my song right now.
I kind of need TWO Dal segno signs in it...

  • First chorus leads back to the beginning - volta 1 - (another verse) no problem there.
  • Second chorus leads to the bridge - volta 2 -, which leads back to the beginning again for a solo over the verse chords. But the bridge is overlapping one bar with the solo, so I have to use a "dal segno" sign that leads back to bar 2 (not bar 1 - if it went back to bar 1 I would have used "da capo" of course).
  • Next it leads to the third chorus, but problem there is that it's a double chorus, so I have to find a way to note that it's supposed to repeat - so here is where I would need "Dal segno 2" leading back to the chorus (4th) - which lead to a variation at the end, that I could call either Volta 4 or Coda.

I don't think it's musically correct or technically possible with more than one Dal segno, right?
Also, I can't use "to Coda" to go back to the 4th chorus, because Coda is supposed to be at the very end and you can't go backwards in the song to find the coda - "To Coda" must be earlier in the song than the actual "Coda"....

So it's a bit complicated... My best solution right now is a footnote at the bottom of page, noting that - at the end of third chorus - "go to bar 19" (which is the beginning of chorus).

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• Dec 31, 2017 - 14:16

Yes "to Coda" means always forward in a score, never backward.

It's possible to use a second "d.s." inside MuseScore (although maybe not very common).
Insert the second d.s. an Segno sign, select it and change the tag names and properties of jumps inside the inspector (for example use for the second Segno the marker type "segno variation" and label "varsegno" and change for the second "d.s" in the field "jump to" to "varsegno").

Don't forget to change the text of this second jump so, that's clear for the reader of the music (for example Segno B or similar).

Note: And if you somewhere struggling, maybe attache the score in your reply, you're working on - surely someone in the forum will take a look, what's possible and the best way inside MuseScore and music notation.

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• Dec 31, 2017 - 15:51

The simplest way is usually tonjust write things out in full for anything more than basic repeats orna single DS. Anything beyond that and you much guarantee confusion among any musicians attempting to decipher your road map, leading to wasted time in rehearsal, trainwrecks in performance, etc.

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• Jan 22, 2018 - 22:35

My problem is similar in that my score is the same as a traditional sonata having a first section followed by a trio and a DC al Fine to repeat the first section. At the end of the first section I have a first time ending intended to carry on to the trio with a second time ending to end the piece. Whenever I play it through both endings are played together ie. neither ending is skipped

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