suspend time signature aspects/checks/fix ups

• Mar 9, 2016 - 16:59

It would be GREAT to have a mode to be able to enter notes & rests into a measure without any checking, fix ups, i.e., no auto alteration of entries whatsoever. After all, I can count to 4, 8, 16 whatever. And after I am done, it could check the measures and, e.g., turn inconsistent ones red.

Given my knowledge of software, this ought to be easy, suspend routine xyz if a flag is set. However, I know less than zero about MuseScore's internal data structures and flow.

I am told that Finale (or maybe it is Sybaleous) has this feature. I have no 1st hand knowledge of it.


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You keep thinking of this as not doing fixups, but actually, you have it backwards. Auto fixups are exactly what you *are* asking for. Right now, if you have two half notes in a measure and you change the first to a quarter, the second half note stays on beat 3, exactly where you put it. That is, there is *no* fixup applied to that note. And this is actually what you want a lot of the time (incuding the example you posted recently). of course, there are also cases where you *do* want that second half note moved earlier. But far from being "no fixup", this actually means you need MuseScore to do something *extra* that currently it do *not* do - MuseScore would need to fix up that half note by moving it from beat 3 (where you originally put it) to beat 2. And somehow the software has to guess how many notes you want moved - just the next one? All notes to the end of the measure? To the end of the piece? It's actually a quite complex problem that involves guesswork that is guaranteed to be not what you want a significant percentage of the time (and idneed, this is the case with Finale - it's has to guess, and gets it wrong around half the time). Which isn't to say it can't be done, of course, or that it would have no value, but it's not really the panacea you may be thinking it would be.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

I took his post to mean that he wanted to just be able to enter notes one at a time, with space added as needed, without any layout adjustments. Then after coming out of "Compose Mode," THEN MuseScore would lay it out according to time signature, key, etc. No?

If so, this request is similar to this . And I am wholeheartedly behind this FR in that case.

If you go back and change a previously entered note, it wouldn't adjust the times for any notes after the correction. It would be up to the user to keep count until exiting Compose Mode, when the layouts calcs would be applied.

If I understand correctly, you can achieve this effect by joining a large number of measures together by selecting them and using Edit > Measure > Join Measures. Then you can enter notes and rests without the constraints of a time signature, and afterwards use Edit > Measure > Split Measure to organize things into separate measures again.

In reply to by Isaac Weiss

I just tried it and
Edit > Measure > Join Measures
is "greyed out". I tried two ways
1) select some contigious measures
2) doe Edit > Measure > Join Measures first.
Both were greyed out.

I tried it on
a) my imported gp5 files
b) my mscz file converted from my gp5 (attached).

Hmm - is 2nd time I attached this. Anyway to ref the first attachment (so as to save space on server)?

Attachment Size
Nobodys Business_MJH(gp5).mscz 29.52 KB

In reply to by Isaac Weiss

your suggestion worked.

But I have no idea whatsoever what "linked parts" means. Is it a software object? If it is a musical term, how is it different than voices or separate staffs.

I note that after I deleted "some part" I still had
linked staffs
two voices
that seemed OK.

In reply to by dpenny

The terms "score" and "parts" are common musical terms. A score for multiple instruments shows a staff for each instrument, but musicians don't read from that - they read from a separate part that shows only their own staff. Virtually all notation programs, including MuseScore, have an automatic way of genewrating parts from a score (in MuseScore, it is don't by File / Parts, although I guess this also happens automatically in scores imported from Guitar Pro). "Linked" parts is a term most notation programs to describe the feature that allows you to make a change to the score and have it automaticlly reflect in the parts and vice versa.

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