Relative and absolut offset

• Mar 14, 2016 - 12:10
Type
Graphical (UI)
Severity
S4 - Minor
Status
by design
Project

The offset is not clearly defined.

If we have activated the two elements a (5,3) and Element b (3,5) and we change the vertical and horizontal offset (1,1) the result is sometimes (6,4) (4,6) or (1,1) (1,1). It depends on which dialogues you use.

The best would be to choose whether somebody want a relative offset (6,4) (4,6) or a absolute offset (1,1) (1,1).


Comments

I think you might be confused. Both offsets are relative - relative to the default position of the element as given by the text style setting. If you think you are seeing something different, please give us *precise* step by step instructions to reproduce the problem.

I think you may misunderstanding. Both are relative to the default position, which is on the top staff line directly in line with the note to which the marking is attached. The two offsets are basically added together to result in the final position. Neither is "absolute".

Sorry, same UI-term different behaviour is a contradiction. It is no misunderstanding it is using strict logic. Using both UI the resulting vector of offset for every texT-element must be the same.

If you use the real coordinates of the real existing text. One behave absolute, the other one relative. It is a matter of reference.

Status (old) needs info by design

You still seem to be misunderstanding, I'm afriad. The *absolute* position is what I said before: on the top staff line directly in line with the note. All of the offset fields (in Text Style, Text Properties, and the Inspector) are *added together* to yield the final posion relative to that zero point. This is completely consistent with the standard English definition of the terms offset. I don't understand what you are doing that is making you think otherwise, but feel free to ask for help in the support forum if you are still having trouble understanding how to use these fields.

Perhaps the language barrier is interfering with out ability to understand each other here. I can try to explain it more clearly, but perhaps it would be better if you could explain your concerns in German to someone else and have them translate here, and also have them translate my answers for you.

It really is the case that these sre both offsets, though - offsets from the default position. The two offsets are added together to yield the final offset from the default position. This is, again the standard Enlgish usage of the term offset.