Want to work together?
Anybody want to work together to write something? Not sure we'd set it up, maybe we could talk a little about how to do it, you know, who should do what, or dive right in if that fits you better. Just hankering for some music with a partner in crime.
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I can't. I am too busy to try to team up. Also, I don't want to do anything illegal, if you get my joke.
In reply to Sorry. by Anonymous
thanks for letting me know. hmm. illegal. hadn't thought of that. thanks! that should be all the encouragement i needed! (if you get my joke)
In reply to sorry to sorry by genesis_piano
There are several people working together or giving feedback on their scores in specific genre or for specific instrument in MuseScore.com groups : http://musescore.com/groups
You can join one of them or create your own and invite scores/people to join.
In reply to There are several people by [DELETED] 5
thank you.
In reply to sorry to sorry by genesis_piano
I don't like jail.
If you haven't found someone already, I'd love to!
In reply to Sure! by JeremyTheViolinist
hey there, johann. i wonder if you are a bach fan when i see your screen name.
yeah, i'm still interested in working together on some music. my instrument is piano. i also tend to work on shorter pieces, just because i find it harder to complete longer ones. you can find some of my work on here.
i've played since i was 14, and probably right around that time, i started composing short pieces. i live in ohio, and i have a cat named "king." i have one brother.
so how do you want to do this? i have some melodies i've been kicking around, or we could start fresh
this is exciting! look forward to hearing from you.
genesisPiano
In reply to our music muse sick score project by genesis_piano
Hey there! Sounds great! I play viola, and i've dabbled with Cello, So how about we write an unorthodox Piano trio for viola, cello and piano? Btw I love Bach. I'm thinking we could write parts of it and Save the scores as attachments in posts in this topic
btw nice to meet you!
As for melodies, we can just synthesize after a few posts
In reply to Hey there! Sounds great! I by JeremyTheViolinist
Hey. I like Bach too. I'm writting my compositions since 2010. I think, so I can help you. I know very well Bachs style, and now I'm writting preludes, inventions and fugues.
I'm playing organ and piano.
In reply to Hey by marmota
Cool! the more the merrier I suppose!
In reply to Cool! the more the merrier I by JeremyTheViolinist
Absolutely!
First some questions. Who is our audience? Are we writing for people who like serious music or for something lighter for someone we love? Do we want it to play on the radio?
See what you can do with it. I can hear the entrance of some intense cello notes, but go with whatever you hear. I'm glad we are working on this together.
Feel free to alter / extend / relax what I've written. It's not etched in stone, just something to get us up and coming.
Not exactly Bach at this point, but you did say "unorthodox." +smile
In reply to Let's roll by genesis_piano
I like your piano intro! Very contemplative. While I'm tinkering away with a cool cello part, I think ew can use this theme I have stuck in my head for the slow movement.
As for audience, I think we should see how it goes, but I'd prefer to have it for people to just enjoy
Also, I want to dedicate this trio to the victims of 9/11 if that's alright with you(?).
In reply to Hey by marmota
with a little tweaking, i think maybe the motive i posted under the title, "let's roll" (see below) could be used as part of a bach-ish tune. +shrug.
Hey there. I haven't posted on here . . .well, ever . . . but I've been using MuseScore for a little while now, and it is the best notation software I've ever used. It sounds like you've already got a good partner and a good song going. I'd just like to say that if you ever want some help or just feel like messing around with a piece, I'd love to join.
My specialty, if you will, is in woodwinds, though I am fairly decent at working with brass winds. I know a little bit about strings and piano, but not enough to try to do anything major with them. I do play a few instruments—namely the oboe, clarinet, tenor saxophone, and piano, though I am in the process of learning the trumpet and flute. I have been composing and arranging music for a while, though not professionally.
I would love to give you any assistance I can, if you want—both of you. Maybe if the situation allows, a full orchestra could be created. =) If there's anything I can do to help, just tell me.
In reply to Hey there. I haven't posted by iHasCheese
absolutely! chime right in!
none of us know what we're doing, either. take a look at what i've put down here and see if you can do anything with it.
i'm not satisfied with most of my efforts, (which is troubling, when i consider how long i worked on these) but maybe you'll see something useful. i do like the first one (1a) better than the others. it might pass mustard.
apart from these, i have a motive you can take a look at. i like it pretty well. it's in a previous post, titled "let's roll."
In reply to help by genesis_piano
I listened to it, and a melody just suddenly popped into my head. This is all I've got so far—tell me what you think. I tried to have the viola play it, but I just couldn't seem to get it to sound quite right, so I gave it to the oboe and it sounded pretty nice.
If you like it, I'd be glad to add to it. If not, I can think of something else.
In reply to Just a Thought. by iHasCheese
hey there, cheese. may i call you "new york sharp cheddar"?
i like what you did. it's a bit sadder than the melody i started with, but i think johann might be glad to hear it. he wanted to dedicate this project to those who have suffered (and died) in 9/11. so sad is good :) i mean :( +cue crocodile tears
i'm not crazy about bar 14's chromaticism, but don't feel like you have to change it. we listen to different things, and different melodies get in our ears - so that's what you hear. i'm going to print this, and rewrite the piano so it is supporting the oboe.
have a pleasant day.
In reply to me likey by genesis_piano
i didn't have anythnig to do today so i wrote out some arpeggioes. i don't really expect us to use them "right out of the box," but maybe somebody will find them useful. it was really just a way to get more familiar with the chord progression. so i'm thinking out loud, here, rather than suggesting we use the arpeggioes as part of the melody.
i wrote them with a guitar in mind, and then thought, hey, i could put these in the viola. lo and behold, the arpeggio was out of it's range. so i stuck them on the piano.
let me know what you think.
In reply to side bar, your honor? by genesis_piano
Dear Cheese and Genesis,
Apologies for the late reply, but, I've been tinkering with a Bach theme to great success (basically I'm using Counterpoint around the Prelude from his English Suite no.3).
In reply to A devious Idea by JeremyTheViolinist
Genesis,
If I understood what you meant, that strange chromaticism was actually me forgetting to put a key signature on the oboe. The B is supposed to be flat (Har har. Be flat. See what I did there? ^_^).
Johann,
That sounds really good. I'm sort of afraid to mess with it now. =) But if there's something you had in mind for me to do, I'll be glad to. Meanwhile, I'll just be trying to find some way to feel better about myself. ^_^
In reply to Oops . . by iHasCheese
ouch, that pun was really hurting. i'm not trying to hear that, be flat-tation.
cheese you can always contribute along the same lines you were going. i think i like your oboe melody better than what i put down. when i get a free moment, i'll go back and look at it.
and yes, the missing flat is probably what threw me off.
i was going to ask if i could call you "parmesean" the other day, but i couldn't spell it and was too lazy to look it up. even though i could look it up right on this page. ok, so it's spelled parmesan. what of it?
In reply to A devious Idea by JeremyTheViolinist
i like that. i cut the volume down on the viola to mp and left the rest of the lines at the dynamics you assigned to them. i don't know about writing in real life in terms of how the instruments balance each other, but i was able to hear the other lines you created a lot easier that way.
and no hurry. i mean it's not like we're on a deadline. part of writing music is that it's supposed to be fun, right? and even more fun when you can share it like we are.
i wish i understood counterpoint as well as you. i wasn't trained so there's a lot i've never learned. can you recommend a good book / site?
In reply to bach trio by genesis_piano
Actually, I've learned the very basic counterpoint I know from a combination of looking over the scores of Bach Handel etc and experimentation
In reply to Counterpoint by JeremyTheViolinist
Something occurred to me as I was listening through some of my old concert band music . . . . You said you wanted to dedicate it to the victims of 9-11. Well, that reminded me of a suite-style piece I played called "To Challenge the Skies and Heavens Above." It was dedicated to the victims of the Challenger shuttle incident. I'm not sure how to describe it. It really expresses the severity and sadness of the event, and I thought you might want to do something similar to it.
You can listen to it here: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG8dsM2d7MQ
(I played the oboe solo when my band played it. It was great!)
Just in case you find it interesting.
In reply to A Thought. by iHasCheese
It sounds very interesting. I'll most likely throw in an oboe into the trio as well.
In reply to A Thought. by iHasCheese
i did like this. reminded me of the 1812 overture in the way that it moved from one melody to another. i heard a nod to "mission impossible" just prior to the 4 minute mark. nice stuff.
it's really excellent. i'm impressed. what do you think about using it as one of the movements of this collaborated project?
nice to have a band play your stuff for you.
In reply to did like by genesis_piano
I did a little work on the piece I started before. My concern is that all those eighth notes in a row becomes dulling to the senses. Thinking I need to break it up with different rhythms but not sure how to do that yet.
In reply to restless by genesis_piano
Wow. I couldn't put it to words but I was having trouble finding the proper sound to go with the piano part from the same theme repeated so often, and I had no ideas on how to change it. Great Work.
In reply to Wow. I couldn't put it to by JeremyTheViolinist
I don't understand. i intend i guess that the melody be something different from the repeated patterns, maybe carried by the viola or oboe while the piano continues to play.
glad you found great work in what i did, though i'm not quite sure what you found great about it.
In reply to A devious Idea by JeremyTheViolinist
I wrote a pop song using this prelude which I play plus a Scarlatti subject .It came out well but it needs a chorus.Im interesated in seeing what u did with the g minor subject too. I need to learn counterpoint .They say it really improves composition!
In reply to Just a Thought. by iHasCheese
I changed the piano so it more closely compliments the oboe. I hope you'll continue to write your melody.
I changed from piano to harp (even though I don't know anything about writing for one). I tried and tried, but couldn't get the volume i needed out of the piano. The cello has been modified with the idea of getting the voices leading to each other. I substitued an F chord for the bB in the original text. We can always go back to the other one if we want to. I have to admit, the way Johan wrote it, ti has definite character all its own.
Keep going!
In reply to music..makes the people..dance together by genesis_piano
I added a viola part, really mostly an echo of the melody.
I plan on taking your oboe melody through retrograde, inversion, that stuff to see what it generates.
Guess I took your chromaticism and multiplied it by two (added my own chromatics). I'm encouraged by our progress on this piece. I like the sound of it.
would like to partner in songwriting need good speaking type contemporary rhythms. nee lyrics .Im not really sure about writing words but I need to!
In reply to Hey i would love to partner in songwriting.I need to check out y by johnm3
sometimes when someone writes lyrics in english but they speak another language more fluently, it is poetic. so i would tell you go for it! what do you want to write about?
Interesting that you ddi not decide to use the primary theme in a fugato style but chose a secondary sort of section.It all has a nice flow but I felt the viola had to much to say in the beginning and that the piano and cello should have started earlier.Maybe ,Im just to use to the original. also, I kept hoping the other instruments would be louder I had to read their parts to adequately hear them. Maybe , this is better but i play violin and I know from orchestration books a cello might cover up a viola easily and the pianists would have to play quietly cuz violas dont project.
Do u play the viola.I would have started with the cello playing melody or a violin with upper part.I think its more interesting to write in unusual combinations.Viola,cello ,piano is a great idea I might try viola,flute,piano .Radulescu uses 40 flutes and writes for odd combinations so u have given me some ideas today. I did a pop song using this and Scarlatti so I might try a piano trio with drum set on this same Bach suite. Imagine the A major with cello.The 2nd and 3rd I play the a minor wouldn't translate well at all . 2 or 3 flutes basoon?or flute oboe,clarinet basson.
U certainly gave me something to think about! Ill be checking out your other musics!!!
In reply to Hey.Ambitious idea! Nice beginning! by johnm3
Very nice idea! I don't know if you're looking at technical playability though. If it's supposed to be played on 1 cello then some chords have to be rewritten as they can't be played on a single cello (e.g., due to a chord requiring strings 1, 2 and 4, or 2 and 4). Otherwise you can replace the single cello with a set of cellos in the score.
I attempted at replacing the chord harmonies with note progressions in attached score snippet.
BTW I like a lot the Bach like fuga example (it avoids the "unplayable" chords). But that's probably for another movement.
In reply to Very nice idea! I don't know by shutterfreak
(Sorry I haven't commented in a few days.)
I like what you two are doing. I think it's going pretty well so far. However, I'm not sure we're all on exactly the same page as far as the general style of the piece. It's probably just me—I have a habit of trying to implement various musicians, so it's hard to stick with just one. =) Do either of you have a sample of the style we're going for? Perhaps one of Bach's other works? I just want to make sure I'm not trying to take this song in the wrong direction.
In reply to Nice. by iHasCheese
(I also haven't posted in awhile.)
I think that Genesis is going for a "song"-like quality for our trio's (soon to be quintet with me adding an oboe and John a flute) second mov., and I'm attempting to compose based off of other composers' ideas, themes, etc. for the first mov.
As for implementing various musicians, I think Mendelssohn would be a great composer to look into (especially his excellent string symphonies).
In reply to Nice. by iHasCheese
i like what you've put - that's why i stuck with it. what style or composer do you have in mind when you think of the melody? it doesn't sound very bachish to me, but there's a lot of classical music i haven't heard yet.
i have attached some ideas about the melody i hope will help us.
In reply to Very nice idea! I don't know by shutterfreak
yeah,
when we started johan had put three note chords in the cello. i just figured there would be more than one cello playing it, and that he had abbrieviated by putting the chords all on one part.
so i just followed suit when i reduced the chord progression to two notes per chord. good to have a reality check as to whether the piece is playable or not. thanks for that.
bar four is too dissonant for me. does anybody else feel that way? i really like what you've done with the cello from bar five to the end.
In reply to cello rewrites by genesis_piano
I "fixed" The dissonant Bar, and I love the rewrite very romantic.
On a side note, I'd like to implement some elements from this cantata I'm working on.
In reply to I "fixed" The dissonant Bar, by JeremyTheViolinist
Johann,
In your "piano trio beginning (cello rewrite) dissonancefix," it sounds pretty good, but it feels a little bit lacking. It seems like it needs more . . . I don't know. It has a melody and a counter-melody—that's fine. But it doesn't feel like the other parts are solid. At this point, it reminds me more of a jazz tune. Perhaps it would help to add in a few instruments—or double some of the ones already here. It definitely needs more bass. Honestly, I'm not very good at writing bass lines. But if you have an accompaniment, I should be able to write a melody with relative ease (at least, a lot easier than blindly entering notes). The last few weeks have been fairly hectic, but things should be calming down pretty soon, so I should be able to work on this song some more.
You guys are doing great so far!
In reply to Hmm . . . by iHasCheese
Thanks for the complement! However I think Genesis is doing most of the hardwork. Anywho, I've reworked the trio into a sextet (basically it's a string trio with a wind trio, dropping the piano entirely (I felt a violin would be more fitting)).
In reply to Thanks for the complement! by JeremyTheViolinist
thanks for the kind words, johann. i like what you did.
Hmm...I know that this thread hasn't been touched in 6 months, but, I think we could start the project again or continue. I feel somewhat responsible for the thread's "death" but I think we can pick things back up.
In reply to Hmm...I know that this thread by JeremyTheViolinist
Sure, sure! I just finished a pretty important concert, so I'm, for the most part, free to do whatever.
In reply to Sure, sure! I just finished a by iHasCheese
Great! How'd it go? And I'd like to work on a piece for any 2 (or 3 if Genesis joins us) woodwinds and a string ensemble (like a concerto, suite etc.). I was thinking we'd each be in charge of a different solo instrument, and we all work on the strings' parts. And I'm on Spring Break until next Monday, so I've got plenty of time on my hands.
In reply to Great! How'd it go? And I'd by JeremyTheViolinist
It was a great concert! I got a few solos, so I was happy. As for the string and woodwind ensemble, that sounds fine to me. If we need to double up, that's fine, too. Three is a strange number for woodwinds. I suppose there's nothing wrong with it, but usually it would be a quartet (flute, oboe, clarinet, and bassoon) with strings. Technically, I suppose we could do a trio with flute, oboe, and clarinet or bassoon. Probably clarinet since the cello/contrabass could play the bassoon part. We'll just see if anyone else wants to join and go from there.
In reply to Hmm...I know that this thread by JeremyTheViolinist
Interesting you would pick Easter Sunday for a day to resurrect our project! Like Christ coming back from the dead.
I looked at it maybe three four months back. Let me dust it off and give it a listen again, see what I think.
Possibilities, Daddy. I see possibilities.
In reply to Resurrection by matthias.hoefler
Funny you mention that. It was part of my inspiration to get things back into gear. How does the new project idea sound? Or would you prefer to keep working with what we had when things stopped?
In reply to Funny you mention that. It by JeremyTheViolinist
All right, I'm all in.
Should we start another thread for this? Part of me thinks yes, part thinks no. On the one hand, if we leave things be, we have a big long record of all the people that worked on this, and sheerly by the number of posts we have, new (or old) people might attribute some importance to the work, and want to try their hand at it. On the other hand, who wants to mill through all those posts to find the end? So it's basically prestige vs. laziness, if you follow my thought.
This comes at a good time for me. My cat died Good Friday. Had him for seven years. So this will be a good distraction / outpouring for me.
I attached rokr258's "To Mend a Broken Heart" simply because I like it. Listen to it or don't, no worries. As I listened I pictured my cat in a space ship, looking out through the loading dock and flying away from me. He raises his paw and sets it on the force field wall. There's nothing more I can do for him now - except remember him.
In reply to Let's Do It! by matthias.hoefler
I'm very sorry to hear that, and you have my condolences. But, I'm glad to hear that you've made your peace with it. I've never had a pet for so long, so I can only imagine what it'd be like.
I think that, to truly "resurrect" the collaborative project, we should start anew in a new thread (after, of course, we each save the latest drafts of the old project, since they could come in handy for the new project).
Btw: The piece you posted is very beautiful. It has a certain air of sadness, but it's infused with hope.
In reply to I'm very sorry to hear that, by JeremyTheViolinist
Thank you for your kind words about my pet.
Set up the new thread, and I will reply with a few attachments to remind us what we last worked on.
Sounds to me like you would rather start something new than revisit the old material. That's fine by me. I think I'd rather bring to completion what we started out to do, so maybe between the two of us, this thing will work out well.
I'm currently working on a video game (early stages) and maybe you could work with me on the score.
I've been working on the score by myself (I thinks its pretty good), but would love some help.
And actually I'm have the composer of Serious Sam do me a main theme if I get 100,000 view on his video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jToz8TsJej4 (Turn down your volume, its kinda loud)
Your piano intro would be pretty good in a background music situation, so it looks like you have some talent.
You can send music through my email: duncan@mrfarrant.info
Cool?
Here are two of my songs, there are more.
In reply to Fugles's Video game by Fugles
Hi there!
I have a blog about writing music. If you'll excuse the blatant blog pimping, it's here:
http://matthiashoefler.webs.com/apps/blog/
Some of my recent posts might interest you:
Blues aab form and abc
Strong and Weak Basslines Using Consonance and Dissonance
Connections between Music and Art
Music and Fibonacci’s scales
Diminished Scales
Turning Words into Melodies
There are many others. My hope is if you seen these topics before, I'll be able to remind you of something useful with them.
My biology prof would always say, “Here's the take home lesson.” My aim is that these posts be things you can “take home” and use in your playing and composing after you've read them. There's so much to learn when it comes to the incredible amount of material surrounding the idea of writing and performing music.
Come join the conversation!