Making new notes or pauses between existing notes?
Hi there,
I'm searching a way for adding notes or pauses between existing notes.
Isn't that implementdt yet or will this be impemented in future?
For example: When I have four quarter-notes c d e f and I change c to an half-note, Then the c just eats up the d note :-(. That isn't funny.
Is there a way to make space to get things between existing notes?
Thanks for information.
Sandiger
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If you want to change the starting position of the D - moving it from beat two to beat three - you use cut & paste. That gives you control over how many notes are moved - just the next one, all notes to the end of the measure, all notes to the next double bar, all notes to the end of the piece, etc.
There have been a number of threads on the advantages and disadvantages of possibly having a new "insert mode" where, every time you change the length of one note, the program would guess how many of the subsequent notes you want to move and move them for you. It's a much more complex problem that you might think, though. For instance, if you had quarter, half, quarter, then you changed the first quarter to an eighth, simply moving the half note from beat two to the "and" of one would result in incorrect musical notation - half notes are not allowed to start on offbeats.
Anyhow, as I said, there are a number of existing threads to read on the subject if you're curious about these sorts of issues. But the answer for how to accomplish what you want for the foreseeable future is, cut and paste.
In reply to If you want to change the by Marc Sabatella
Marc Sabatella wrote:
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If you want to change the starting position of the D - moving it from beat two to beat three - you use cut & paste. That gives you control over how many notes are moved - just the next one, all notes to the end of the measure, all notes to the next double bar, all notes to the end of the piece, etc.
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Yea - this could be a way, but it seem to be a little complicated.
The task is - for example, that I have a melody in my ear, like the chorus of "Oh boy" from Buddy Holly, and I learned to play it from listening on keyboard.
To imitate the melody of the singer, it's for me a little bit a complicated rhythm with "wild" mixed notelength.
To get the right songpattern notes, I first enter the song approximately, and then listen and correct again and again, till I've got the feeling: Thats it!
For this purpose I'd perfere if the program has a mode, which would shift (or adapt) the time(beat) of all the follwing notes, when I shorten or lengthen notes or pauses or delete them.
Could there be added such a mode as a feature?
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There have been a number of threads on the advantages and disadvantages of possibly having a new "insert mode" where, every time you change the length of one note, the program would guess how many of the subsequent notes you want to move and move them for you.
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I haven't seen them yet...
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It's a much more complex problem that you might think, though. For instance, if you had quarter, half, quarter, then you changed the first quarter to an eighth, simply moving the half note from beat two to the "and" of one would result in incorrect musical notation - half notes are not allowed to start on offbeats.
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Maybe it's true, thats a complex problem, but I think it's solvable.... some other programs had solved this task like these programs here:
http://www.columbussoft.de/downloads.php
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Anyhow, as I said, there are a number of existing threads to read on the subject if you're curious about these sorts of issues. But the answer for how to accomplish what you want for the foreseeable future is, cut and paste
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Ok, thanks for answer, I will try out if cut and past will fit my needs...
Sandiger.
Ok - here is one more other plea:
Maybe you've recognised that english isn't my mother tongue. I do my best to write as precise and accurate as I can, but I know or I think that I make some grammar mistakes or that some expressions are not so very good, maybe complicated or unusual.
If you have the leisure sometimes, I'd be pleased if you would advise me to the most bad and stupid mistakes to improve me.
Thank you very much.
Sandiger.
In reply to Marc Sabatella by Sandiger
Keep going.
:-)
Regards,
In reply to Marc Sabatella by Sandiger
The thing is, it might seem in this one particular case that what you want would be easy, but it's all the other cases that make it complicated. And the same behavior that seems right now like it would be exactly what you want would turn out to be totally wrong in another situation. Do a search for "insert mode"; that should bring up a few other threads to read for more info.
When I say it's a complex problem, I don't mean actually implementing insert mode. That's probably easy. I mean, getting it to do what you want. As I said, Finale has this, and about half the time, I end up having to erase the measure and redo for the reasons I already explained. Sometimes insert mode does what you want, but at least as often, it turns out not to. While it takes a while to get used to the MuseScore way if you're used to software that works different, I believe tha once you get used to how MuseScore does things, you won't want to go back. I have man years experience with Finale, and now about a year with MsueScore, and I can absolutely say with complete certainty that the MuseScore note entry method ends up being more efficient.
But overall, I can also say, it's not going to work to first deliberately enter a melody incorrectly, and then try to correct it. Sure, you can use copy/paste to correct honest mistakes - and it's *not* actually difficult - but if you deliberately plan lots and lots of mistakes, you're just making it much harder on yourself. Work the rhythms out in your head, or on paper if necessary.
what you want to do is add a note or notes to an existing bar in which all the time value is presently assigned.
If that is true, then you will have to change the time signature of that bar if you want to keep everything else.
Common Music Notation is very specific as to time and duration, and MuseScore automatically adjusts note duration values to accurately reflect commonly agreed on Music Notation. As the program has no way of understanding what you want unless you accurately enter it, it will "steal" the value from the following notes. If you just want everything shifted over, the program cannot "know" that, so it will insert the value you enter and take it from the immediately following value. It is just following your instructions.
Regards,