Installing MS 1.2 in Ubuntu 10.04
For the last several weeks the mscore-stable ppa has been showing that the MS 1.2 builds for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid) have failed. I would like to upgrade from 1.1 to 1.2 but cannot find working binaries. I have not tried building it from source, though. Can someone verify that MS 1.2 works on Lucid?
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Not swayed by 12.04 and the Unity desktop, then? I tried and failed to build in Lucid for AMD64. One of the few reasons to convince me to go to 12.04 would be MuseScore but I plan on holding off until July when most of the major bugs in 12.04 ought to be ironed out. I might, however, try it in a virtual machine.
In reply to MS 1.2 in Ubuntu 10.04 by underquark
My build seems to work now on 32-bit Lucid. Perhaps you need to install the 32-bit compatibility libraries to build on 64-bit? ia32-libs
From ubuntu 10.04 I created new virtual machine using VirtualBox OSE and installed 12.04. Downloaded MS 1.2 and it works fine (after going to Edit->Preferences->I/O and selecting ALSA for sound). So there's one way to try 1.2 if your machine has enough clout to run VMs.
In reply to MS 1.2 in ubuntu 10.04 by underquark
Thanks for the tips. I do have Ubuntu 12.04 running, but not on my main production machine. (And you're right, the Unity desktop really tends to hinder my preferred workflow.) So I'm curious if anyone has successfully compiled MS 1.2 for Lucid or if you'd have to upgrade too many libraries to make it worth the trouble.
Well, I was able to build 1.2 using 32-bit Ubuntu 10.04. Seems to look right when executed, except no sound. Says it can't init the ALSA driver. Don't know if that's a bug or something in the compilation that went wrong.
In the I/O settings I changed the ALSA device setting from "default" to "hw:0" and now I have sound. So, I am cautiously optimistic that I have an MS 1.2 installation working on Ubuntu 10.04. So far it does seem to work. I also tried making a deb package with checkinstall and that seemed to work too, but I did not actually install from the package, so I'm not sure all is good there.
In reply to In the I/O settings I changed by bwv582
Great. If you didn't do so, can you report your progress downstream to the Toby Smithe, the ubuntu packager? Probably here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/~mscore-ubuntu
It's now seven months since "bwv582" reported that Musescore 1.2 builds for Ubuntu 10.04 don't install. This morning I tried again to install 1.2 by clicking the "Free Download version 1.2" button on the Muse site. As before, a message pops up -- "Package 'mscore' is already installed" -- and that's the end of that.
A helpful person referred me to the mscore-stable PPA page last evening. What a disaster -- I'm a composer, not a programmer or a hacker, and that site is definitely intended for folks skilled in those disciplines. But I gave it a try, though the PPA page seems to be just the unstructured thoughts of some seriously unfocused programmer. So much is left out of the instructions that there is nothing to grasp onto, if indeed the page is intended to be instructional. I did try to follow it for a rather long time and succeeded in losing Musescore entirely; I couldn't even reinstall 1.1.
This morning I got 1.1 back up and running by deleting everything in my system folders that referred to muse or mscore in their file names, then using Ubuntu's Synaptic Pkg Manager to install it from scratch. Still no luck with the Download 1.2 button, though.
In reply to installation woes by kentfx
Reading between the lines, the fact of the matter is you need to upgrade Ubuntu.
1.2 flatly don't work on Lucid
Is the reason for sticking with 10.04 the Unity desktop interface?
For that reason I dumped Oneiric and moved over to Mint Katya which was running 1.2 very happily after following the insturctions on the mscore-stable PPA page.
It may sound an upheaval, but perhaps you should consider upgrading Ubuntu - if you don't like Unity then perhaps it would be worthwhile going over to Ubuntu Studio which has moved over to the XFCE desktop UI I shall personally be investigating this package later for installation on my Linux box shortly after Christmas.
HTH
MIchael
In reply to Reading between the lines, by ChurchOrganist
...to ubuntu 12.04. I then changed the desktop/interface to xubuntu (which gets rid of Unity) and installed Tint2 which is a lightweight panel/taskbar. MS 1.2 then downloaded and installed no bother.
You can try Mint Kaya or one of the many other distro's. If you want to stick with more mainstream ubuntu (for whatever reason), you can either back up your data and do a clean install of xubuntu 12.04 or upgrade from ubuntu 10.04 to ubuntu 12.04 and then "convert" to xubuntu:
See https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/alternative or one of he many other sites for non-lovers of Unity.
In reply to I have "upgraded"... by underquark
I'm the OP of this thread. I just thought I would mention briefly that although the available binaries did not work in Lucid, I *did* get MS 1.2 to build successfully from source on a Lucid 32-bit system, and I had everything working. However, with Lucid end of life only several months away and with other software on my machine badly needing upgrade too, I eventually moved to 12.04.
In reply to 1.2 on 32-bit Lucid does build, but I eventually upgraded anyway by bwv582
That's interesting. I understand that with 12.04 I can get rid of the Unity graphics and layout and revert to Gnome.
But two issues remain: first, can I have the work areas as they are in 10.04? I have twelve work areas opening automatically at bootup here, with unique environments loading in six of them -- graphics, documents, music, accounting, sales, etc., each carrying multiple windows -- and the remainder available for ad hoc work.
And second, is it possible to have something like the 10.04 Ubuntu Software Center, without gamer graphics and prices for applications?
Someone in this thread suggested upgrading to 12.04 and immediately going to the new Mint 14. Does that make sense to you?
In reply to followup by kentfx
All the details you want are in that forum somewhere.
I have four workspaces and it looks as though you can have a ridiculously large amount if you wish (I tried 57 but the panel got a bit cluttered). Switching between them is easy ([Ctrl]-[Alt]-arrow keys). I don't open anything automatically at startup but there appear to be programs that let you do this - maybe try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie
If you don't like the Software Centre you can still use Synaptic Package Manager - in xubuntu you click on the mousy button (xubuntu's logo) and you'll find Synaptic living in System. You can also still load programs from the terminal if you wish which is good when copying and pasting instructions from internet advice sites.
In reply to qv http://ubuntuforums.org/ by underquark
Thanks for this information. It's very useful, just what I was hoping to find. A reasonable strategy is probably to clone the desktop machine onto a laptop and try the xubuntu transfer there, experiment with it &c., then make the move with the desktop machine.
Regards, Kent