Treble clef two octaves below

• Feb 13, 2017 - 21:08

There is a single octave below the normal G clef, but no double one. It's above the bass clef pitch-wise for a note on the same line, so it's almost useless to me. Note-reading on other clefs is really difficult for me- I have to select each note and look at the pitch in the bottom bar then write a chord to know which notes are present on the stave.


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A G15vb clef is available as a symbols, in the Symbols Palette of the master Palette. you can drag if from there into your score, it won't affect playback though and you'd have to do it for every clef.

Adding it to the clefs palette as a 'first class citizen' wouldn't be too difficult, but is it really common enough for this?
We could also add it to the clefs Palette in the master Palette and keep it out of the clefs Palette in the Basic and Advanced Workspace.
Feel free to create a feature request in the issue tracker, https://musescore.org/en/node/add/project-issue/musescore

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Before using MuseScore I used Tuxguitar but was frequently frustrated when I wanted to compose but note input was restricted to tablature, so I couldn't play a, say, 7-note chord of only M2 intervals. Included is an example of the thing I'm currently writing. I thought before that in piano sheet music both hands get separate articulation, dynamics, etc.
I'll probably copy the notes on two piano staves that are just not linked, and transpose one two octaves below.
edit: please pay no attention to the chord symbols, I forgot to remove those, some might not even be accurate..

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In reply to by communistkiro

Still not clear what instrument or instruments you are writing for, but I'm guessing piano. Hopefully you realize that if you want anyone else to read your music, you'd need to change the bottom staff to bass clef, but you can always do that when you're done.

Articulations are indeed normally indicated on every note for which they are needed, but dynamics are normally included just once. Pianists are smart enough to play the melody slightly louder than the accompaniment; you don't need to write that into the score. If you take my advice and write your music as two instruments of one staff each, then the dynamics by default will affect only the staff to which they are attached, but you can use the Inspector to override that.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

I understand where you're coming from. However, I'm composing for myself, without any particular instrument in mind, only pitch. Not many people will hear what I write, and it may never even be performed.

I don't like like standard musical notation and I'm not going to use bass or SATB clefs. To me, intervals and relationships between notes are more important than keys, note names, accidentals or such. I'd like to try chromatic staves (examples: http://musicnotation.org), if ever implemented in newer musescore versions.

I'm new to musescore, so I'm still unaware of its full capabilities; it flexible. I'm using two pianos with one stave each now, and I'll slowly experiment with more instruments.

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