system win7x64 musescore eec493e.
Please correct the behavior of the fullscreen mode on restart. Setting the main window to fullscreen and close musescore restores the main window not even maximised.
What are you seeing that I'm not? Under Windows 8.1u1, a maximized windows has no left/right/bottom border, only a titlebar. If I click the Maximize button in MS, and quit/restart, I get it maximized.
In fact there's another issue.. that bottom info only appears after you've changed to full screen (and back again if you wish).
I put musescore in fullscreen almost everytime so it might be useful to have more people verifying this behaviour... this would mean that people who haven't tried full screen don't know yet about the bottom info bar :p
By full screen, you are referring to the ordinary "maximized" behavior provided by your OS / window manager?
I find this works as expected for me under both Windows 7 and under Ubuntu with xfce. That is, if I maximize the window during one session, it starts out maximized on the next next (unless the first session ends with a crash).
Can you describe step by step what you are doing, what you expect to see, and what you see instead?
By full screen, you are referring to the ordinary "maximized" behavior provided by your OS / window manager?
I find this works as expected for me under both Windows 7 and under Ubuntu with xfce. That is, if I maximize the window during one session, it starts out maximized on the next next (unless the first session ends with a crash).
Can you describe step by step what you are doing, what you expect to see, and what you see instead?
OK, it sounds like you are *not* talking about the ordinary OS / window manager maximizing function, but instead a different special mode I didn't even know existed (!). The ordinary maximizing function *is* preserved, but this other mode apparently is not. Not sure if that's really standard. But I don't understand what you mean about "having to" run this special mode. It should not be necessary at all. There shouldn't be anything in that mode not in the oridnary modes.
I dont' consider it a special mode. Plenty of software has the full screen option where it removes the operative system's window (Win8 here), it's pretty standard among music software. The thing is that MS doesn't remember that preference when you start it.
Besides, there seems to be an info bar at the bottom that, AFAIK, only shows when you turn to full screen.
I have no idea if it's standard behavior according to OS and window manager guidelines to restore the fullscreen status; if it's standard, then we should do it too, sure. But it's the last part I'm questioning. Can you post a screenshot? I guess if you have your window set too large to fit on the screen or dragged to low, you might not see the status line, but it should normally be perfectly visible without going to fullscreen mode.
The mode the OP is referring to is called "full-screen" by some software folks (check Firefox and F11). That name is a bit of a misnomer, conflicting with the normal OS full-screen mode which I and Marc are talking about. This mode is more of a no-toolbars/borders mode, and yes more software is supporting it (IE and Firefox for sure on F11).
Once enabled, a quit/reload for IE and Firefox _does_ maintain this mode. Finale 2011 doesn't, maybe 2014 does.
Ctrl-U is a new one to me, too! It seems to be MuseScore2 specific.
It doesn't bother me having to turn MS into full screen everytime I open it.. but in the end, if it's something Iam always doing, maybe that's something the software should remember.
My Win8 taskbar has some transparency so I can see bits of info from MS's status bar behind the Win8 taskbar icons.. but can't properly read anything and if the Win8 bar was to be solid, I wouldn't be able to see not even a little bit of MS's status bar.
The usual behaviour from other softwares in this case is to fill up the screen when maximized without having the bottom of the window behind Windows' taskbar.. that's not happening here unless I turn on full screen (I do hehe).
This is why I am asking for a screenshot. Unless you have deliberately made your window too big for the screen or dragged it partially offcreen, no part of the window should ever be obscured, neither when maximized not otherwise. It seems you are using full screen mode to work around a bug no else has ever experienced, and that's why we're having trouble understanding. So *please* show a screenshot (or two) showing whatever problem you are seeing.
I don't know Windows 8 well, but are you sure that window is maximized? Doesn't look like it to me - the icon in the top right corner doesn't say "maximized" to me. So it looks to me like it's just been made to big / too low to fit on screen.
Besides not remembering to start in full screen, MS also forgets to maximize the window when it gets out of full screen mode, leaving the bottom part under the taskbar.
I always turn MS into full screen but I think this might be a problem to other users or at least it will look like a bug.
As far as I know, Windows 7 does not provide a standard full screen mode; programs apparently ahve to implement it themselves and choose different ways of doing it. Maybe that has changed for Windows 8? For Ubuntu / xfce, there is definitely a standard full screen mode usable by all programs via the Alt+Space / Title Bar right click menu. None of the programs I tried under Ubuntu / xfce preserved their full screen status on close / open either, but they did preserve their maximized status upon leavng full screen mode. On the other hand, for me, MuseScore *does* preserve its maximized status if I use the standard OS / window manager command to control the process. It's only when I use MuseScore's own special Ctrl+U shortcut that this is not preserved. As noted, not all programs provide such a command, so it's hard to say if there is a standard here. Some programs I use that provide such a command work like MuseScore - maximized status not preserved after leaving full screen - but others do not.
AFAIK, Win8 is just like Win7 on that department. Programs are responsible for figuring out full screen, the standard Win window doesn't have that option... maybe it's part of a marketing strategy, wouldn't sound good if Windows had an option to get rid of windows lol
I tried MS 2.0 under Win7, expecting it to react differently from Win8, but no. MuseScore (Ctrl-U) or IE/Firefox (F11) full-screen mode indeed takes over the entire screen, taskbar and all. Adobe Photoshop CS4 also has a full-screen mode so likely more recent Adobe products do too.
It's a bit disconcerting until one gets used to the mode, esp how to get out of it and back to the taskbar or normal mode. As Marc said, each app uses a different approach.
Restore fullscreen mode on restart, or preserve maximized status
Severity
⇒
FWIW, I actually *like* the fact that full screen is not preserved on close / restart. I've used that in the past with other programs when I can't remember the shortcut to get out of full screen mode. Not so much an issue on Ubuntu / xfce where there is a standard way that should always work (Alt+Space menu).
But not preserving maximized status upon entering/leaving full screen mode via Ctrl+U seems like a bug.
For the record, Mac OSX apps don't remember full screen mode between session. (tested with firefox). While indeed firefox on window 8 remembers full screen mode.
Actual full screen, as in the last option under the View menu? The consensus seemed to be that if MuseScore was quit while in full screen, then when reopened it should be maximized but not in full screen.
Comments
+1
Starts maximized but never in full screen.. and I need it in fullscreen or else I can't see the bottom part (the info thing).
Win8 64 bit
What are you seeing that I'm not? Under Windows 8.1u1, a maximized windows has no left/right/bottom border, only a titlebar. If I click the Maximize button in MS, and quit/restart, I get it maximized.
You just described the same thing I wrote.
In fact there's another issue.. that bottom info only appears after you've changed to full screen (and back again if you wish).
I put musescore in fullscreen almost everytime so it might be useful to have more people verifying this behaviour... this would mean that people who haven't tried full screen don't know yet about the bottom info bar :p
By full screen, you are referring to the ordinary "maximized" behavior provided by your OS / window manager?
I find this works as expected for me under both Windows 7 and under Ubuntu with xfce. That is, if I maximize the window during one session, it starts out maximized on the next next (unless the first session ends with a crash).
Can you describe step by step what you are doing, what you expect to see, and what you see instead?
By full screen, you are referring to the ordinary "maximized" behavior provided by your OS / window manager?
I find this works as expected for me under both Windows 7 and under Ubuntu with xfce. That is, if I maximize the window during one session, it starts out maximized on the next next (unless the first session ends with a crash).
Can you describe step by step what you are doing, what you expect to see, and what you see instead?
1- Open something in MS
2- CTRL + U (full screen)
3- Exit MS
4- Open something in MS
Expected not having to press CTRL + U everytime I run MS.
OK, it sounds like you are *not* talking about the ordinary OS / window manager maximizing function, but instead a different special mode I didn't even know existed (!). The ordinary maximizing function *is* preserved, but this other mode apparently is not. Not sure if that's really standard. But I don't understand what you mean about "having to" run this special mode. It should not be necessary at all. There shouldn't be anything in that mode not in the oridnary modes.
I dont' consider it a special mode. Plenty of software has the full screen option where it removes the operative system's window (Win8 here), it's pretty standard among music software. The thing is that MS doesn't remember that preference when you start it.
Besides, there seems to be an info bar at the bottom that, AFAIK, only shows when you turn to full screen.
I have no idea if it's standard behavior according to OS and window manager guidelines to restore the fullscreen status; if it's standard, then we should do it too, sure. But it's the last part I'm questioning. Can you post a screenshot? I guess if you have your window set too large to fit on the screen or dragged to low, you might not see the status line, but it should normally be perfectly visible without going to fullscreen mode.
The mode the OP is referring to is called "full-screen" by some software folks (check Firefox and F11). That name is a bit of a misnomer, conflicting with the normal OS full-screen mode which I and Marc are talking about. This mode is more of a no-toolbars/borders mode, and yes more software is supporting it (IE and Firefox for sure on F11).
Once enabled, a quit/reload for IE and Firefox _does_ maintain this mode. Finale 2011 doesn't, maybe 2014 does.
Ctrl-U is a new one to me, too! It seems to be MuseScore2 specific.
It doesn't bother me having to turn MS into full screen everytime I open it.. but in the end, if it's something Iam always doing, maybe that's something the software should remember.
My Win8 taskbar has some transparency so I can see bits of info from MS's status bar behind the Win8 taskbar icons.. but can't properly read anything and if the Win8 bar was to be solid, I wouldn't be able to see not even a little bit of MS's status bar.
The usual behaviour from other softwares in this case is to fill up the screen when maximized without having the bottom of the window behind Windows' taskbar.. that's not happening here unless I turn on full screen (I do hehe).
This is why I am asking for a screenshot. Unless you have deliberately made your window too big for the screen or dragged it partially offcreen, no part of the window should ever be obscured, neither when maximized not otherwise. It seems you are using full screen mode to work around a bug no else has ever experienced, and that's why we're having trouble understanding. So *please* show a screenshot (or two) showing whatever problem you are seeing.
1 - Open MS, load something.. the status bar isn't even there. This was after a OS reboot.
2 - After getting into full screen mode (and out again). The status bar appears behind Win8's taskbar .
I don't know Windows 8 well, but are you sure that window is maximized? Doesn't look like it to me - the icon in the top right corner doesn't say "maximized" to me. So it looks to me like it's just been made to big / too low to fit on screen.
Ah... now I know what the problem is!
Besides not remembering to start in full screen, MS also forgets to maximize the window when it gets out of full screen mode, leaving the bottom part under the taskbar.
I always turn MS into full screen but I think this might be a problem to other users or at least it will look like a bug.
I do agree if you enable the "full-screen" option with Ctrl-U, that should be retained between sessions as all others that I tested do.
As far as I know, Windows 7 does not provide a standard full screen mode; programs apparently ahve to implement it themselves and choose different ways of doing it. Maybe that has changed for Windows 8? For Ubuntu / xfce, there is definitely a standard full screen mode usable by all programs via the Alt+Space / Title Bar right click menu. None of the programs I tried under Ubuntu / xfce preserved their full screen status on close / open either, but they did preserve their maximized status upon leavng full screen mode. On the other hand, for me, MuseScore *does* preserve its maximized status if I use the standard OS / window manager command to control the process. It's only when I use MuseScore's own special Ctrl+U shortcut that this is not preserved. As noted, not all programs provide such a command, so it's hard to say if there is a standard here. Some programs I use that provide such a command work like MuseScore - maximized status not preserved after leaving full screen - but others do not.
AFAIK, Win8 is just like Win7 on that department. Programs are responsible for figuring out full screen, the standard Win window doesn't have that option... maybe it's part of a marketing strategy, wouldn't sound good if Windows had an option to get rid of windows lol
I tried MS 2.0 under Win7, expecting it to react differently from Win8, but no. MuseScore (Ctrl-U) or IE/Firefox (F11) full-screen mode indeed takes over the entire screen, taskbar and all. Adobe Photoshop CS4 also has a full-screen mode so likely more recent Adobe products do too.
It's a bit disconcerting until one gets used to the mode, esp how to get out of it and back to the taskbar or normal mode. As Marc said, each app uses a different approach.
FWIW, I actually *like* the fact that full screen is not preserved on close / restart. I've used that in the past with other programs when I can't remember the shortcut to get out of full screen mode. Not so much an issue on Ubuntu / xfce where there is a standard way that should always work (Alt+Space menu).
But not preserving maximized status upon entering/leaving full screen mode via Ctrl+U seems like a bug.
For the record, Mac OSX apps don't remember full screen mode between session. (tested with firefox). While indeed firefox on window 8 remembers full screen mode.
See also #71416: Main window becomes tiny after being maximized.
https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/2752
Seems to work under Win7, would be grateful if anyone can verify on different platforms.
Actual full screen, as in the last option under the View menu? The consensus seemed to be that if MuseScore was quit while in full screen, then when reopened it should be maximized but not in full screen.
PR amended to match #25. It should even remember the pre-fullscreen size if restarted in maximized layout.
Fixed in branch master, commit 03453e1a7c
fix #18452, fix #71416, fix #74811: save/restore MainWindow size
Fixed in branch 2.0.4, commit c05ab52040
fix #18452, fix #71416, fix #74811: save/restore MainWindow size for 2.0.4
Fixed in branch 2.0.4, commit 477485c538
Merge pull request #2767 from jeetee/save_restore_MainWindow_2_0_4
fix #18452, fix #71416, fix #74811: save/restore MainWindow size for 2.0.4
Automatically closed -- issue fixed for 2 weeks with no activity.