Displaying individual verses
Greetings from a new member (but long-time user),
My apologies if this has been dealt with before, but I am new here, and a search of your archives does not show a solution.
I have been asked by a church to create a display of music and text to be projected for congregational singing.
NOTE: They assure me that they have copy/reproduction rights for this material.
Our first assumption is that as It is not necessary to play the music file, only display it, a PDF rendition of the song is the most expedient way of achieving this. If there is a better way of doing so, I would be more than happy to hear it.
The issue is that they wish to show only one verse of text at a time, which is entirely understandable. MY issue is that I don't know how to do this without duplicating the music and creating an entire page for each verse. (well, two pages actually, as their projection system only adequately displays 1/2 a verse at a time.) For a five-verse hymn with refrain, this can be as many as 20 pages, not to mention that it is very time consuming to create that many copies of the music to which to append the text.
Is there any way of automating the rendering of verses so that the text can be displayed over a single iteration of the music? I would greatly appreciate any assistance more experienced users could provide in this regard.
Thank you,
Tom
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Compile a score *. Mscz;
I put a verse per page;
Projecting as a single file.
In this way, the assembly could see a kind of karaoke (with the cursor follows the music).
Or:
Compile a score *. Mscz;
Save in image format;
Compile a presentation (es.LibreOffice presentation).
If you want we can do some experiments (some help).
Pay no attention to the formal aspect of attached.
In reply to If they asked to me: by Shoichi
Merci, Shoichi.
Would you then be able to project the same musical notes with different lyrics for each verse, or would it still be necessary to copy and paste the musical line? (and is this easier than working in PDF format?)
Thank you for your response.
Tom
Write the tune.
Create a new "instrument" for each verse.
Copy the entire first stave to the second, third etc. staves.
Enter the lyrics for each verse into their own, separate staves.
Now create Parts - one Part for each verse.
Display Part 1, then Part 2 etc.
In reply to Can you do it with Parts? by underquark
Interesting! Thanks for the idea.
Could you save this as a single PDF so that the AV people wouldn't have to keep track of individual files for projection?
Tom
In reply to Interesting! Thanks for the by toffle
and probably I did not understand exactly the question.
Propose again an example, the same, if what you want is a PDF anyway.
We use a laptop connected to the projector (and it seems easier to use a single score. "Mscz" that fills the screen and I can play with the spacebar).
You can put it in the suggestion box;-)
In reply to Sorry I'm late, by Shoichi
I think you've got it, Shoichi. The AV guys are not musicians, so I think that a PDF or multi-page image file would work best. (but not Powerpoint... I HATE powerpoint.) The congregation is fairly large, and in a test display we did, approximately one half a hymn book page fits the screen(s) in a way that it can be read throughout the sanctuary. They wish to display SATB music along with one verse of text at a time. (again, due to magnification issues, multiple lines of text become difficult to read upon projection) For the time being I think that the best approach is to simply have a copy of the music for each verse of the text. It's certainly not impossible, but not the most efficient use of my (unpaid) time.
Regards,
Tom
In reply to I think you've got it, by toffle
Attach the score here
If you are satisfied I can do some testing for a PDF
if is not the entire book of Psalms ;-)
In reply to @Tom by Shoichi
This is what I came up with. According to the limitations of the projection space, they only have room to adequately display one half of a page. My solution is basically what I was trying to avoid - making a copy of the music for each verse and adding the lyrics. The resulting PDF is 11 half pages. One issue I have found is that multi-rests seem to cancel embedded page breaks if they fall within the rests.
Thanks for looking. If you have any suggestions, I would be happy to hear them.
regards,
Tom
In reply to This is what I came up with. by toffle
If the PDF is ok.
Version 3 contains the caption at bottom of page ;-)
The PDF should work in full screen (page up / down), but also: mscz (mute)
P.S.: the text can be enlarged again
In reply to Have a look by Shoichi
Thank you, Shoichi.
As you can see it is a lot of work for the pay. (nothing)
I see what you mean about a single line, but we are not quite that limited. We can display up to four lines legibly. Any more, though and it becomes difficult for the congregation to read the music.
I applaud the church for wanting to hang on to their musical heritage of part-singing, but the work is intensive, and in my opinion, does not replace the printed music in the pews. (A task at which MuseScore excels.)
Thanks once again. I appreciate a fresh opinion on the problem.
Regards,
Tom
Hi, is this what you are looking for to achieve? I am busy with a project for our church to prepare every verse in our psalmbook to be projected with notes. Please see attached. I am using MuseScore v 1.2 and Powerpoint. I am creating the notes and words seperately by using the invisible feature of MuseScore, Then I import it into Powerpoint as two layers. The attached file is verse one of the Magnificat in Afrikaans.
In reply to One verse per page: notes plus words. Max 6 lines by HettieB_
Ciao, some time ago I put the page about MuseScore on Wikipedia (http://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/MuseScore). It is time to update it (or, to exaggerate, translate it from English)... you feel like it?
It is not more difficult than writing in the forum.
In reply to One verse per page: notes plus words. Max 6 lines by HettieB_
Thank you, Hettie. It looks like this may be a solution for me.
Transcribing an entire Psalmbook sounds like a daunting task. I hope you have help.
Regards,
Tom
Hi Tom, yes it is a time consuming task, but very inspirational. I had help with the copy and paste -phase of the lyricks, but with the converting the verses via various settings to be big enough to be projected, I am on my own: me and MuseScore! Perhaps you are also living in South Afica? Maybe then we can help each other? Regards HettieB
In reply to Displaying individual verses by HettieB_
Unfortunately, I am far away in Canada. Our winter is just ending here, and we are anxious for spring.
I think it would be much easier if the leadership team at the church would just print the music and not be so obsessed with using technology to complicate things. At this stage, I have shown them that what they want works, but it also takes a lot of work to achieve results. I can knock off a simple score in a very short time, but to format it with individual verses, large text, and appropriate page sizes takes quite a bit of time.
Regards,
Tom