Measure-oriented editing
Measure-oriented editing
Currently, within a measure, editing is note-oriented. One can replace a note with a different note. One can use “delete” to replace a note with a rest. Or one can change the duration of a note, which results in inserting rests and/or overwriting following notes.
Measure-oriented editing, on the other hand, would be a mode that works within the confines of a selected measure. One could delete an interior note, resulting in rests being added to the end of the measure, rather than in place of the deleted note. One could insert a note before or after a selected note, perhaps creating too many notes for the measure (if there were not enough rests at the end). What to do with the extra note(s) is open to discussion. (One option might be to increase the number of beats in the measure, perhaps showing the extra notes/rests as grayed out or colored red). With measure-editing, one could change the duration of selected notes or note sequences, which would adjust the measure as above (depending on whether the change increased or decreased the overall duration of the change).
Currently, one can simulate a measure-oriented delete by cutting everything to the right of the note to be deleted, and then pasting it over said note. There are times when using the existing cut and paste operations is quite sufficient. That technique only works for certain situations, however.
For discussion sake, let’s say that I am composing a piece of music, and I want to change a sequence of eighth notes to sixteenth notes. In the current version of MuseScore, I would end up with a sixteenth rest in between each note. If I chose to fix it using the cut and paste method, I would need to do that one note at a time. Another example might be that I need to change a sequence of eighth notes to triplets.
Currently, the easiest way to make those kinds of changes is to insert a new measure, compose that measure from scratch, and then delete the old measure (which works reasonably in a single-staff system).
It would speed and simplify composing, if a measure-editing mode could be included in a future version of MuseScore.
Respectfully,
David
P.S., MuseScore is a serious, feature-rich, high-end product, exceedingly well implemented and supported. I cannot imagine why someone would purchase an expensive competing product. MuseScore is a labor of love. Thank you so much for your efforts.
Comments
This is a common request and I do support seeing something like this. I would just add, though, that the best way to do this currently isn't to insert a new measure and delete the old - that's *much* more work than necessary, even in single staff systems. Instead, simply take advantage of the fact that new notes overwrite old ones and just re-enter the measure in place. No need to even delete the old contents first, unless it bothers you see the old notes while entering the new ones. But even that is easier than adding a new measure and deleting the old.
In reply to This is a common request and by Marc Sabatella
Hmmm... I could write down the contents of the old measure on a piece of paper instead of in MuseScore... Carbon-wood fiber technology! ;)
I do like to see the old and the revised side by side, and I guess that I get attached to technology.
Thank you for you response and suggestion.
Since you indicated that this is a common request, I look forward to eventually seeing it as a feature.
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In reply to Hmmm... I could write down by dddiam
When I compose music and want to write something similar in another place I copy the mystic to another staff on the same page so I can see it. I them make my changes and delete the temporary line I copied. If there is no other line available I'll make a new staff long enough to make my edits them delete the unwanted staff.
In reply to When I compose music and want by mike320
Nice suggestion. Thanks. I will give that a try.
Does anyone whether or not measure-oriented editing functionality is currently in development for a future release?
In reply to Does anyone whether or not by dddiam
In the current development version, there is a way to insert notes in between other notes and delete notes without being replaced by rests. It's not exactly what you describe, instead the measure will grow/shrink in number of beats. You can try a nightly from the master branch https://musescore.org/en/download#Nightly-versions. Inserting/deleting happen with Ctrl + click and Ctrl + Del
In reply to In the current development by [DELETED] 5
Thanks. I will try the nightly.
In reply to Thanks. I will try the by dddiam
Can a nightly be installed under a different program name, so that one can run the stable, released version generally, but run the nightly to try out new features?
In reply to Can a nightly be installed by dddiam
The nightlies are installed under a different directory and do not replace a stable version.
In reply to The nightlies are installed by mike320
Thank you much. That is the reassurance that I needed.
In reply to Does anyone whether or not by dddiam
To me, the new functionality in the master builds are like raw material that could be used to build a usable "measure editing" / "scratch pad" facility. The real challenge will be sorting out exactly how this should look and work. I think there is decent agreement in the general idea but the devil is in the details.