How do I have both swing and straight in one piece?
Hi, how do I have the first half of my arrangement played straight and the second half swung?
Is there a notation mark to switch between the two instead of having to push F11 and using the combobox manually every time?
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Currently, this is not supported for the automatic computer playback. But the usual way to mark this for the human musicians who will ultimately play the arrangement would be with the word "swing" or "straight", placed as system text or tempo text. It is possible some future version of MuseScore may support this for playback. Hopefully even customizable swing ratio.
In reply to Currently, this is not by Marc Sabatella
its been 10 years and they still havent added it lmfao
In reply to its been 10 years and they… by dbfollowme
nvm i was wrong
For a quite tricky workaround to create some quavers with swing feel to it. I will quote a post by DIM, (the original post can be found here:
Probably, you have to right click on each swung note individually
and change the ontime and offtime values suggestted by the user DIM in this post (see below)
http://musescore.org/en/node/9248#comment-94999
Subject: Ontime and offtime for 8'th note triplet feel
Posted by DIM on February 10, 2014 -8:05am
To make 8'th notes swing (in playback mode online) you can do the following. A quarter note is 100%. Two straight eight-notes is 50% each. But a swing-feel requires the first note to be around 2/3 and the latter 1/3. You can do it like this: Set the first 8'th note like this:
ontime offset type: offset
ontime offset: 0%
offtime offset type: offset
offtime: 66%
And the second 8'th like this:
ontime offset type: offset
ontime offset: 34%
offtime offset type: offset
offtime: -66%
It is very important to change the second 8'th note end-length to minus 66%, as the last triplet-feel 8'th note will "clip" the sound of the next-coming note in playback mode. It is a little tricky, but it works. .
I May Be A Bit Late On This Comment But This Is For Future Composers!
When you place a Swing Text symbol down if you right click it and go to system Text Properties You can then go to swing settings and change them there, However if you have a piece of music where you want It Swung in one section and Strait in another you can place your Swing Text Symbol, Adjust it anyway you want then place another one were you want it to end, Then Right click the new one go to System Text properties and Then Swing Setting, and check the Off Button, That way it will return back to normal keeping your swung Portion Swung! Really Useful, and to make it a bit Better you can rename the text from swung to Strait!
In reply to I May Be A Bit Late On This by SkellySniper165
Super Helpful. Thanks!!!!!
In reply to I May Be A Bit Late On This by SkellySniper165
That's really the answer!
In reply to I May Be A Bit Late On This by SkellySniper165
This didn't work for me.
Has anyone had any success in using this? Either all of my 8th notes are swung, or there played straight no matter what setting I choose in the Swing setting.
In reply to This didn't work for me. Has… by kpack01
Sure it works, write how many SWING you want , and EDIT them, and change between 66% and 50 %
In reply to This didn't work for me. Has… by kpack01
If two instruments are playing in the same rhythm at the same time, and one is playing on the swing and the other is straight; the other instrument is heard in the same way as the rhythm of the dominant instrument.
For example: The piano is in a rhythm of a swing, and the violin is in a straight rhythm; The violin is also heard as swing. But on the contrary, you can distinguish swing.
In order to understand the difference, you should take the swing ratio to around 70%.
Listen to the test.
In reply to If two instruments are… by Ziya Mete Demircan
I think SWING, like TEMPO are SYSTEM terms, they are for the whole score, I think, but perhaps I'm wrong, 2 "swings" can not have their action at the same time on different instruments. So, I use tuplets, if I am straight and I want somebody swing I write for him, only, music in triplets , quater note and eight note, and if I am in SWING and i want somebody straight, iI use duolet (2 eight notes )
In reply to I think SWING, like TEMPO… by Raymond Wicquart
By default, yes, the "Swing" element on the text palette applies to all staves (it is "system" text). But if you want some instruments t swing and others to play straight - or different swing ratios at once - you can do that in MuseScore. Just add staff text to the relevant staves, and use Staff Text Properties to set the swing properties however you like.
In reply to By default, yes, the "Swing"… by Marc Sabatella
Thanks, I don't know that.
In reply to Thanks, I don't know that. by Raymond Wicquart
You used staff text in your example: Swung_or_Not;_That's_the_problem.mscz
I never thought about doing that.
In reply to You used staff text in your… by Jm6stringer
Staff text swing is a 3.0.x feature. I think it changed after 3.0 even.
In reply to You used staff text in your… by Jm6stringer
Actually it was possible ever since swing text was a thing, starting at 2.0.
In reply to Actually it was possible… by Marc Sabatella
Interesting the things I never saw in version 2.
In reply to Interesting the things I… by mike320
It is in the Text palette in 2.3.2
In reply to It is in the Text palette in… by Jojo-Schmitz
It is in the Text palette in 2.3.2
The text in the palette is a system text, which is far more common.
In reply to It is in the Text palette in… by mike320
True. But Stafftext works in MuseScore 2 too.
In reply to True. But Stafftext works in… by Jojo-Schmitz
Like I said, the things I never noticed in version 2... I've learned more about version 2 than I ever thought I would using version 3. I remember an option that several people never noticed until a few days ago about Selecting a section. I didn't know about it either. There's more but a detailed list is not necessary.
In reply to Interesting the things I… by mike320
See screenshot: v2-2-0
If you want to listen: https://hedsounds.blogspot.com/p/two-fiddles.html#Demo-01 (right click on this link and select "Open in New Tab")
PS:(I used my own soundfont because the original soundfont doesn't sound that way)
In reply to I May Be A Bit Late On This by SkellySniper165
This worked well ! I began the piece with swing then I selected the first measure (in musescore 2), for no swing, went to palette and clicked on swing so the word "swing" would appear then right clicked on it - to 'text properties,' then swing settings and click 'off.' Worked well. Thank you !!
In reply to This worked well ! I began… by spojaw
Or use the simpler method described in the Handbook https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/swing#swing-off
In reply to Or use the simpler method… by SteveBlower
Except, I don’t think MuseScore 2 had that, or easily customizable palettes to add it yourself. So you have to do it the hard way every time.
In reply to Except, I don’t think… by Marc Sabatella
The handbook says the active "Straight" text is available since v 3.4.
In reply to Except, I don’t think… by Marc Sabatella
2,x didn't have that, but could get it added too, albeit not as easy as in 3.x
In reply to This worked well ! I began… by spojaw
Or use the Straight text (under "More" in the text palette) it is for exactly that purpose
In reply to Or use the Straight text … by Jojo-Schmitz
And that is what the Handbook entry says in the link in my post.