Trying to add a pick-up measure in the middle of the piece
I am arranging a piece of vocal music from the early 1500's. It has a ground that is sung by 2 voices. The third sings with the ground intially and then goes on to sing verses on top of the ground. The verses need a pickup bar but I want to keep the integrity of the intial three part harmony. I don't want to keep repeating the ground during the verses. I would like the page to only have 5 staves on it: the three part harmony, then one line (verse 1) and a second line (verse 2). I have attached the piece. It would help if I could add an end repeat to the first two lines.
Thanks.
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| Cornish - Ah_Robin,_Gentle_Robin.mscz | 3.26 KB |
Comments
I do not think it is useful use: Staff Proprierties / Invisible.
Try to look at whether it may be appropriate to your purpose:
http://musescore.org/en/node/24765
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVmXhlpOpa4&list=PL6BDCE01557636C85
In reply to Hi Ravenscroft by Shoichi
I made some changes (as I tried to explain previously), see if they are compatible with your idea.
My attempt at notation only, not perfect for playback.
If you go to menu item: Style / Edit General Style / Score and uncheck 'Hide empty staves', you will see the hidden parts.
For the end repeat on the first two lines, I added some 'bold' staff text (i.e. a colon) and dragged into position, next to the end bar.
For the pickup bar in the third voice, I just dragged a bar line from the palette onto the last note of the staff.
Since you mentioned 2 verses, I copied the first verse to fill 5 staves on the page.
Regards.
In reply to Something like this perhaps? by Jm6stringer
I was counting on the help of someone more capable ;-)
In reply to Caspita! The timing by Shoichi
one thing you can do, using Measure properties in the contextual menu you find through the other click
In reply to one thing you can do, using by robert leleu
...affects all three parts of measure #8, so parts 1 & 2 will lose one beat upon the repeat.
Part 3 will therefore not be in sync.
The pickup note of part 3 should be part of measure #8.
Voices 1 & 2 repeat, singing 'Ah', as voice 3 continues singing the 'la' of the word 'lady' (not the word 'My'). Please play the expanded attachment to see what I mean.
If the next verse (not shown) has a pickup, it should be added to measure #16.
Granted, fully writing out all the parts would be safest, but hey, it's 15th century ;-)
Regards.
In reply to Measure properties... by Jm6stringer
I have abandoned the use of a pickup measure and wrote out 'voice 3' all the way through the piece. I have managed to fit it all on one page although it seems to be too wide for A4. (I'm working on it.) I used Edit General Style > System> fix measure width to help everything line up.
In reply to Something like this perhaps? by Jm6stringer
This is what I am looking for. The only problem is the barline at the end of voice 3 but I guess I will have to live with that. Thanks.
In reply to Yes!! by Ravenscroft
http://s2.imslp.org/images/thumb/pdfs/1f/61fee883926d9620f14bb3c42cb397…
In reply to Yes!! by Ravenscroft
yes, you have to
In reply to Yes!! by Ravenscroft
If you mean having to live with the double barline (end barline) of voice 3, measure #8, in my earlier attachment: you can double click it then use the up arrow to shrink it to the top line of the staff, essentially hiding it. Then place a line from the lines palette to finish the measure.
See this new attachment:
(Where I have already put the barline there, however there's a glitch, so simply click the end barline of voice 3 of the first system. Then press the up arrow 4 times... for some reason the double barline reappears upon reloading the score, even though the single barline remains.)
Also: I abandoned the pickup measure and added the additional ground to the third voice, so there are now 7 lines instead of 5. It's almost identical to your 'Cornish - Ah_Robin,_Gentle_Robin complete.mscz' attachment - except it shows repeats for voices 1 &2.
By the way: when I open your score, measures #25-26 are not correctly separated by the barline.
Regards.
In reply to @ Ravenscroft... Barline? by Jm6stringer
I did notice the problem with measures 25-26. I had to untick the equal measure command in edit general style. I am going to get my little group of singers to vet the arrangement and will try and incorporate any suggestions they have.
You have all been very helpful. I learn so much the more I use the program. I am trying to find other pieces like this one. I already have "Sumer is icomin in" - any suggestions?
In reply to Yes I noticed by Ravenscroft
http://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Medieval
there is certainly something
In reply to Search here: by Shoichi
I went through cpdl.org yesterday and came across the Fayrfax manuscript. I haven't tracked down a digital copy yet. I will look through imslp.org too. Thanks.