empty startscore
Hi,
Already made a lot of scores with musescore where I don't give that much attention to playback when working on a score. For some reason I can't get the best sound of some instruments when I start with my default blank score for my band. Could somebody hand me a blank score with the most optimal settings per instrument for:
trumpet Bb
trombone C
Tenor Sax
Alt sax
Sousaphone Bb (the belgium way: treble clef and notation as it was a trumpet)
especially a better sousaphone playback would be nice
Thx!
Comments
I guess with sound you mean transposition (down an octave or 2)?
Like the attached?
In reply to I guess with sound you mean by Jojo-Schmitz
Yep: when I choose a instrument from the list, I guess it's already with optimal settings. If not maybe it can be better with some settings.
But esp the sousaphone: I want it to sound more lie a real sousaphone, but with annotation of a trumpet
thx
In reply to Yep: when I choose a by soppie
Notation like a (Bb-)trumpet means a) G-clef and b) transposed to reflect the Bb.
Sound like a Sousaphone I guess means transposed down an octave, so it sounds deep enough while still fitting into the G-clef without excessive use of ledger lines, right?
That's what my file does.
On the other hand you could use a G-clef with the little 8 below (and with out transposing an additional octave).
In reply to I guess with sound you mean by Jojo-Schmitz
just saw your attachment. That's oke, but a lower C on Sousaphone doesn't sound like a lower C on a trumpet. When they match they should also sound like a lower C in real life on the physical instrument.
In reply to sound mismatch by soppie
So a Bb Sousaphone does not transpose like a Bb-trumpet?
Ah, I see my mistake in the file. Take this here instead
Seems the Bb Tuba (which I took) is setup wrongly in MuseScore 1.3 (i.e.: without transposing by a major second)
In reply to So a Bb Sousaphone does not by Jojo-Schmitz
that's it! Now I know why i had the trouble with the sousaphone. It's a program issue.
thx!
In reply to that's it! Now I know why i by soppie
And the currently development version has the same problem...
Now reported in #25387: Bb Tuba not transposed
In reply to So a Bb Sousaphone does not by Jojo-Schmitz
There are two different conventions used for tuba. In most of the world, music for tubas and other low brass instruments is *not* transposed (except at the octave for tubas). So the defaults in MuseScore are correct. However, there is one particular tradition in England and a few other places where tuba music is transposed a step - and then usually written in treble clef, so trumpet players can read it and use their usual fingerings. The same applies to baritone horn, euphonium, and trombone. These are all Bb instruments by design (eg, their fundamental tone is Bb) but as nonetheless notated at clncert pitch in most of the world, transposed only in a few specific musical cultures.
There is an outstanding feature request #22848: E flat tuba is needed to add new entires for these instruments (in addition to the standard ones) for use in those musical cultures that write music for these instru,ents in this way. See also http://musescore.org/en/node/12269.
In reply to There are two different by Marc Sabatella
I think you're referring to the UK Brass Band format Marc.
ISTR that the 1.3 UK Brass band template addresses this properly.
Templates have not yet been finalised in 2.0 as the file format is still subject to change.
Using a UK Brass band template would be the way forward on this, however.
In reply to I think you're referring to by ChurchOrganist
Yes, that's one of the worlds I had in mind. But I've seen reference to this type of convention from Dutch and now Belgian users as well, and I gather it may be outside the context of an actual UK-style brass band. Maybe it really is just Dutch & Belgian users writing for UK-style brass bands, though?
Anyhow, I forgot about the template. That's definitely a good starting place for 1.3, and it should eventually be for 2.0 as well. However, I'm still thinking it may sense to add a new instruments to the master list - not listed under "common instruments", but maybe add a new genre to make it easy to find them without having to go through "all instruments".
In reply to Yes, that's one of the worlds by Marc Sabatella
Yes, it had already crossed my mind that we would need a Brass Band genre.
Hi,
A small remark regarding the usage of transposing Tuba's in the Netherlands.
After providing the music in a Dutch symphonic band for several years I know having Tuba's in Bb (or even in Eb) are common in the Dutch music. Imported music from the US is mos often provided with transposed parts for these Tuba's. And even in both clefs (for historical reasons). Nowadays a Tuba in Bb using the bass clef is most common.
So the Bb tuba is certainly not restricted to to Brass Bands.