Looking for really good Timpani and French Horn section soundfont(s)

Hi. I'm in the middle of creating a custom soundfont of mine and noticed that there really isn't any great Timpani or horn soundfonts anywhere. The closest one I found that I even remotely like is the Roland SC-88 timpani, and that sound is lacking reverb and a good vibration. I would love to find a good strong timpani soundfont but looking up on Google brings me either no soundfonts, or just sounds that are in Kontackt form or something. I'm also having the same problem with horns, every soundfont I find is either too weak and soft, or too loud and electric sounding. Any help would be appreciated!