Playback is one octave above
Hi!
I am making an adaptation in an old sheet that was for piano to two acoustic guitar. I managed to change the second sheet to treble clef, adjust to a guitar playing the lows and the another to high tones.
The problem is the playback, useful sometimes. Is one octave above. I tried the mixer, but there is only option for changing the kind of sound. I changed to nylon chords but the running is the same. I don't want to change the sheet because I use it to play, how can I change the playback instrument adjustments to play it as a real acoustic guitar?
Comments
Check the Clef.
Can you attach the score you are having problems with?
In reply to Check the Clef… by Shoichi
Here is...
The guitar is a transposing instrument, which means it sounds 1 octave lower than it's written. The easiest way to fix this is to use the Treble clef with the 8 under it, which can be found in the advanced palettes.
In reply to The guitar is a transposing… by mike320
It sounds 1 octave higher than is written. If I change the clef, the score is automatically moved one octave. But I am trying these possibilities...
I solve it exploring the tips of these good friends!
I changed the treble clef by the one with a little 8 below. The score was auto moved above one octave, but this time, instead of change the score properties, I selected it all and did transpose all notes one octave lower. Than I got the effect needed, now it sounds like a real acoustic guitar.
Maybe I can use the normal clef, I don't know, this issue occurs when a new sheet is created because the default instrument is piano. When changed to guitar, it will keep one octave above, still don't know how to fix it.
In reply to I solve it exploring the… by gustavopi
It is possible to use a normal clef, you need to set up the transposition in the staff properties. Change the transposition to down an octave and replace the clef with the plain treble clef.
In reply to It is possible to use a… by mike320
"when a new sheet is created because the default instrument is piano"
Too obvious surely, but why not create first a new score for guitar?
Nevertheless, "When changed to guitar, it will keep one octave above, still don't know how to fix it."
Do: Select all (Ctrl + A) -> Ctrl + Down arrow (Cmd for Mac instead of Ctrl)
And the score and playback will be good.
This comes up all the time with choir scores. The tenor part is written an octave too high, up in the soprano range. It's for the convenience of the tenors - it's easier to read that way because most notes are in the middle of the treble clef. To bring it down an octave so it plays back correctly, use the treble clef with the little 8 down by the tail. Here's a screen shot: Screen Shot 2018-07-17 at 12.13.18 AM.pdf
In reply to This comes up all the time… by Timborino
And move all notes down an octave.
It was not good enough for me, the clef with a little eight was bothering me, so here is how I did to make it right 100%. (I will try to translate as best I can)
I did put back the right treble clef. The score is where and how it suppose to be, therefore the sound is one octave higher again. Then I did as follows...
- Right click on the instrument label, properties of the score. First, it's need to correct the strings of the guitar, it's all one octave higher than normal, the La (A) should be 1, not 2. By doing this, the high tones will already appears in red correctly.
- Still in the same window, transpose writings 1 octave "perfect octave" to bottom. When apply, will trow all the score one octave higher. Now the Sol (G) 1 of the guitar string match the octave 1 of the score signed by the clef.
- Closing this window, Edit->Select All. Then Notes->Transpose, now transpose all notes one octave by interval "perfect octave" to bottom. This should put the score back to correct place and the guitar will sound right!
Thanks to all contributions!
In reply to It was not good enough for… by gustavopi
For the record, in the guitar repertoire, there is not a "right treble clef", and another, with little eight, which "would bother" you or some others. The two clefs are used depending the publishers, and other various reasons.
In the future, if you prefer the treble clef for your guitar scores, just choose this instrument in the wizard ("All instruments" tab, or type "guitar" in the search box")
![treble clef.jpg]( "treble clef.jpg")
In reply to In the guitar repertoire,… by cadiz1
Yes, don't why they hide this instruments!
Problem is, when you create a new sheet, there is no way you choose the instrument. I chose treble clef, and the instrument is piano by default. When you change to guitar, the score is jumped one octave higher, so it's better to change the instrument before start to plot notes. I see it as usability problem of the software that should be corrected, should not let the user create sheet without choosing the instruments of each score.
In reply to Yes, don't why they hide… by gustavopi
Choose template file?
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/create-new-score#choose-template
Or https://musescore.org/en/handbook/create-new-score#add-instruments ?
In reply to Yes, don't why they hide… by gustavopi
The default score is there just to give beginners something to play with; it isn't really meant for you to use for real. Normally, you are supposed to select instruments yourself - this is exactly what happens when you do File / New. If you prefer to see that instead of the default score when you start up, go to Edit / Preferences and pick "Start with new score" as the startup option.
Hmm, or maybe you are doing File / New, but for some reaosn keep choosing "Treble staff" instead of the very first option, "Choose instruments"? Just start doing that. Or scroll down urther to where the guitar template are. If you commonly like to write for guitar treble clef (without the 8 that many publishers prefer), then simply set up a score the way you like and save it as a template, as suggested above. Then each timer you want to create a new score using File / New, simply select that template and a new score will be created from it.