Wandering dynamics and hairpins
Windows 7, Musescore version 2.3.2, rev. 4592407
I know this topic has come up before. I tried to understand what has been proposed as solutions in the past but could not. Also some of it applied to earlier versions of Musescore.
I am arranging a symphony movement for string sextet + double bass. Schumann DB.mscz
The double bass part (and, I think only that part) has that problem.
Here are the specific wandering markings:
dim above m.8 belongs in m.99
dim in body of m.18 belongs in m.111 (cannot click on it to move)
hairpin in m.23 belongs in m.26
hairpin in m.27 belongs in mm.31,32
hairpin in m.98 belongs in m.103
When I corrected them they re-appeared next time I opened the file. Sometimes different ones appeared.
That may be the case when you open the file.
When working on the score I used continuous view almost exclusively.
When entering hairpins I used the shift + 'greater than, less than' keys.
When entering 'dim' I used the 'line' menu in the palette.
Please help.
Thank you.
Keith Lawrence
Comments
I would suggest that when you are moving lines and hairpins, always do it in page view. Musescore seems to get confused when you make adjustments to them in continuous view and then switch to page view.
To fix you immediate problems, I suggest you select all of the line and hair pins and press ctrl+r to return them to their original positions and then adjust them while in page view to see if this helps.
Easy way to select all lines or hairpins: Right click one and use select>all similar items.
In reply to I would suggest that when… by mike320
Dear Mike 320,
Thanks for your post. I tried your suggestion, fixed all the wandering markings, saved and closed and re-opened the file. Some wanderings persisted.
When I work on the score, I use continuous view. I only use page view when I’m exporting it as a PDF. The bass part appears in page view routinely and I work with it there.
Any more ideas? And why did this happen only with the double bass part? That puzzles me too.
Thanks for your help.
Sincerely,
Keith Lawrence
Schumann DB.mscz
In reply to Dear Mike 320, Thanks for… by guarnerius4me
The double bass part is a puzzle to me. As I suggested, only change the span of a line or hairpin in page view, this minimizes wonderings. If you shorten a hairpin the change is not reported in the inspector, but is undoable. This may explain why some of the hairpins still wonder. They need to be reentered and adjusted in page view. One advantage of this is that you only need to adjust it once. The other is you know where the hairpin start and stop point in the page view is. The measure widths in continuous view are probably different. Since the widths and all other adjustments are in spaces (as defined in Loyout->Pge settings...->Scaling) rather that a percentage of the original, different width measure have different displays with the same hairpin. Also, hairpins that have been adjusted in continuous view change their offsets in an unpredictable (in my experience) manner.
In reply to The double bass part is a… by mike320
Thanks for your post, Mike.
I tried correcting one of the wandering hairpins in the score in page view as you recommended, closed the file & re-opened it & it was OK. So...one other possible work-around that I can suggest for others who may have this problem (or a more serious one with more wanderings [I only had 5 or 6]) is to correct all the wanderings just in the part affected (double bass in my case) using the ctrl + R mentioned in your earlier post and then save it (only the part) as a PDF file. This will work if your arrangement is complete and there are no further corrections or edits likely to be made.
Thanks for your help.
KL
In reply to Thanks for your post, Mike… by guarnerius4me
I have a possible explanation for the specificity of the problem (i.e. appearing only in the double bass part). I completed a string sextet version of this arrangement first and then added the double bass part to the texture to make a septet.
Perhaps that might explain it?
KL