Cadenzas

• Nov 26, 2018 - 19:11

Cadenzas can be added rather well by increasing the beat count of the measure. The problem is that if you do so in a multi-instrument score, it changes the usual whole note rest to some odd double or quadruple whole note rest in all the other instruments, and it makes the measure much, much wider in all the seperate parts.

The cadenza measure should just look like a normal measure to everyone else, a normal measure with a fermata over it's measure rest, but a normal width measure. It would be really nice if we could have a little tick box in measure properties labeled 'Cadenza' that would make a 28 beat measure look like a normal 4 beat one. Many cadenza measures have a lead in from tutti instruments, so it'd really, really have to look like a normal measure.

Relatedly, invisible notes make measures wider. If they're invisible, they really shouldn't. Anyway to ignore layout niceties on invisi-notes and squish them all together?

The width adjustment for Cadenzas should be as is on scores, and look like an entirely normal measure on parts.


Comments

This is definitely a problem with creating cadenzas. The way to work around this is to make sure a whole rest is near the middle of the measure for instruments that don't have notes. Make the rest of the rests invisible by pressing V. It looks like a measure rest so it will look good. If you decide you need to move the whole rest a little, then you can select it in all of the measures at once and use the inspector to move all of the rests the exact same amount.

In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

It doesn't work. Here, Beethoven's fifth first movement, tiny little Oboe Cadenza:
scoreoboesolo.png

In Musescore, on the score, invisible double whole note rests:
MusescoreOboeSolo.png
See how the alignment is all wrong? And that bottom measure, double whole note rest + fermata? That was what happened when I did the Ctrl+Shift+Del. That works on 3/4, but on 8/4 and more, apparently you get the weird rest.

Here's the flute part, with that invisible rest distorting the cadenza measure:
FluteOboeSolo.png

In reply to by Laurelin

Another alternative would be tuples. For the second quarter rest that would normally occupy the measure, go to notes->tuplets->other, and set that rest to a tuplet of ration 7:1. That will get you 7 quarter notes. Add in the quarter and half notes as seen, and make the four sixteenth notes grace notes.

That should work, and you won't need to alter measure length at all to accomplish it.

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