Is it possible to remove all the (invisible) marks of Tempo Changes?
Sometimes I come across an incomprehensible effect. After several score changes, the playback tempo begins to change regardless of the previously set tempo. It is possible, however, that I myself have changed the tempo, lengthening, for example, fermats.
Is there a plugin that can “clear” all tempo marks, for example, after the work of the wonderful TempoChanges plugin? And why does the tempo text (Lento, Allegro ...), placed in the score works, but the special words to change a tempo (rit., accel.) - do not?
Thanks in advance!
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If you want to remove all tempo mark, right click any tempo mark, choose Select>All similar items and press delete. You can then start over with new tempo marks.
Most problems I've heard of with tempos going haywire have to do with entering or editing tempo marks after parts are created. These are bugs that need fixed. If you find one, please report it in the Support and bug reports forum so we can see if it has already been reported. 3.1 development is getting very stable, so I expect things like tempo bugs to start taking a priority after its release.
In reply to If you want to remove all… by mike320
Dear mike320, thank you very much for your help! If I find the case you described I 'll send a report.
In reply to If you want to remove all… by mike320
Thanks Mike - an 18 month old topic, but I discovered the same issue today. I initially checked out the uncompressed XML
.mscxfile and foundtempotag markings throughout, when I really only wanted one set at the start - all the subsequent tempo settings were invisible in the score.The tip you provided (click a tempo item, select all similar and delete) fixed things - I had a look back at the edited
.mscxfile afterwards, and happily saw all thetempotags had gone, apart from the first one, so things played as I wanted. Perhaps it was because I'd based this score on a template that already had tempos/notes/rests in it, and it seems they don't go away, even when you delete any notes in the template score. I'll try and replicate the issue and work out what's going on (in my case, I hadn't added any tempos apart from the first one at the first bar).In reply to Thanks Mike - an 18 month… by Lofo
I'm sure it's not because of a template because tempos are not imported into a score when you create it from a template using the new score wizard. There aren't any notes in a score created from a template either so I think your terminology might not be correct.
In reply to I'm sure it's not because of… by mike320
Oh OK thanks mike320, this narrows down the field somewhat, although I really like the feature you suggested with selecting similar tempo marks en masse and removing them (and applying this to other properties in the scores too) - I wasn't aware the selection criteria could be made this selective - it's a great feature.
I have a question though: when you say tempo marks are not copied across from templates, aren't template files just standard score files (with notes and rests) located in the ./Templates directory? Or have I got this wrong? If not, are you saying when you create from a template file, you can be copying from a file that has notes and rests, but the tempo tags are not brought along.
My own templates in the ./Templates directory are just other files with notes/rests (and I'd thought tempo tags too), and I thought when I made a new score from them they brought along those notes and rests.
In reply to Oh OK thanks mike320, this… by Lofo
Creating a new score from a template - meaning actually selecting that template in the "create new score" wizard - never copies notes or rests or tempo or any other content. Just the instrument list, style settings, and some details about the title frame.
My guess is you weren't actually creating a new score from the template, but maybe just doing a "save as" from it, which of course includes the notes etc. But true use of a template in the wizard is another matter entirely.
In reply to Creating a new score from a… by Marc Sabatella
Thanks Marc, that's indeed correct - I was effectively doing a 'Save As...' from the files in the ./Templates directory, not creating a new score.
rit. and accel. are just plain texts, no effect on playback. That's why the TempoChanges plugin exists.
In reply to rit. and accel. are just… by Jojo-Schmitz
Dear Jojo-Schmitz, thanks for your comment. I understand this perfectly and, nevertheless, I believe that it will be quite easy to make this effect, since Tempo texts already exist.
Each “rit / accel” can be executed as Tempo texts (using BPM numbers) and can be expanded as “Ped .. *” using the Shift + arrow (or using Selecting) to set a scope. I think it will be much more convenient than using TempoChanges, and then manually reducing the font size 12 (by default) to the desired, to fit everything you need on the stave.
In reply to Dear Jojo-Schmitz, thank you… by alexander.poro…
And exactly that isn't yet implemented. A tempo text works on the spot and only once. See #9383: Rubato: ritardando and accelerando and #273808: Tempo Change Horizontal Lines
In reply to And exactly that isn't yet… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks for the links which show that the topic is rather actual. As you wrote "a builtin method for this would be better." (#282527).
So we'll wait for it, but now I decided to make 2 different MS-files: first for notation (as it's a main MS' aim) and the other one for playing back, which should not include all the notation marks and details but must more or less clear reflect the music "view" for composer without using of MIDI sequencer.