Harp pedal Diagram Issue
Whenever I try to use a harp pedal diagram, the startup window immediately closes on its own. I have the latest release of Musescore installed and my os is windows 10. This is across all scores; I might be missing something here.
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What is a harp pedal diagram?
Sample score, please. And/or exact stept to reproduce.
Do you mean the plugin, https://musescore.org/en/project/harp-pedal-diagram-0?
In reply to What is a hapr pedal diagram? by Jojo-Schmitz
Yes, I meant the plugin.
And to reproduce-
1. I downloaded the Musescore 3 plugin from the website
2. Extracted it.
3. Ctrl + X and Ctrl + V'ed the .qml file into Musescore 3 plugin
4. Deleted the now empty folders.
5. Went to a recent score (the score was already opened, didn't restart Musescore 3)
6. Enabled the plugin from the resource manager, (set shortcut to Ctrl + Shift + H)
7. Tried it via Plugins- but once I click it, the startup window opens, but force-closes immediately.
8. Tried reloading the plugins via the plugin manager (twice) only to get the same result as described in step 7.
In reply to Yes, I meant the plugin. And… by Jband
Did you section something in the score first? Looks like it needs to be a range selection (with blue rectangle).
In reply to Did you section something in… by Marc Sabatella
" it needs to be a range selection (with blue rectangle)"
Yes. that caught me out when I first used it. Selecting a single note doesn't work, so now I always select the entire measure.
In reply to " it needs to be a range… by OpenScore Lieder
I've addedd that to the plugin page now.
Other plugin just run on the entire score if nothing is selected, maybe this could get implemented for this plugin too.
In reply to I've addedd that to the… by Jojo-Schmitz
@Jojo-Schmitz
Perhaps a misunderstanding in the use of this plugin?
The harp pedal diagram plugin is used for creating documentary pedal diagrams to appear on the score at specific places - the plugin has no role in playback, and the diagrams on the printed score are used to guide the harpist. Intuitively I expected to be able to create a pedal diagram by clicking a specific note, as when entering Stave Text. But that's not how this plugin works. It requires the user to create a selection before the plugin will show the popup window for creation of the pedal diagram.
The image illustrates this trap:
In reply to @Jojo-Schmitz Perhaps a… by DanielR
Well, as said, other plugins, like e.g. color notes or color voices, just select the entire score if no (range) selection had been made and apply the plugion to the entire score, this might be the way to go for this plugin too.
So far indeed this plugin (just like all its predecessors too) requires a range selection, and I've made that clear now on that plugin's pages (copied across from one of its predecessors
In reply to Well, as said, other plugins… by Jojo-Schmitz
"...just select the entire score if no (range) selection had been made and apply the plugin to the entire score"
The snag there is that the pedal diagram will always be inserted at measure 1. But pedal diagrams are often needed at various points in the score, to reset the pedals to a different tuning. So selection of a single note or measure is essential.
In reply to "...just select the entire… by DanielR
Hmm, OK, then applying it to the whole score doesn't seem to make sense. But without a valid (range) selection an error message should show, telling the user about how to use the plugin properly
In reply to Hmm, OK, then applying it to… by Jojo-Schmitz
"But without a valid (range) selection an error message should show"
Yes, I do agree. The problem at present is that with a single note just highlighted (no frame around the selection), the popup window flashes up briefly and disappears. This leads a user into thinking "Oh dear, this plugin isn't working".
In reply to @Jojo-Schmitz Perhaps a… by DanielR
Assuming the framework allows you to get the necessary info from just a single note - or maybe allows you to convert a single selection to a range selection? - that would be the best way to go. That is, modify the plugin to actually work as expected with a single note selection. Otherwise, display a dialog (which should be done in any case with nothing selected).
In reply to Assuming the framework… by Marc Sabatella
Or maybe apply to measure 1 is no range is selected?
In reply to Or maybe apply to measure 1… by Jojo-Schmitz
I actually think an error message is more helpful, this makes it more clear what they'd need to do to apply the diagrams elsewhere.