Beam Over Rests
For a long time, I thought Musescore didn't support beaming over rests. When I found out that it is possible, I tried it. I opened up Musescore and just added an 8th note, an 8th rest, and another 8th note to the end of a score that was already open. I highlighted the rest and double-clicked the "Beam middle" option. It changed the first 8th note to look like half of a double 8th note sequence but left the 8th rest and second 8th note untouched.
I've attached three images. The last one is how it should look.
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Comments
Which version of MuseScore, which operating system?
In reply to Which version of MuseScore,… by Shoichi
Musescore V. 3.2.3.7635
Windows 10
It seems the default for the note that does not connect is probably beam start. Click this note and make it beam middle also. A beam start note will never connect to the previous note. See https://musescore.org/en/node/284855 for more info on beams.
In reply to It seems the default for the… by mike320
I understand why it wasn't working, but from https://musescore.org/en/node/11370 I believe that this is not how it is supposed to behave. I am guessing that they changed how it works when moving to Musescore 3. I think the way it worked in MS 2 made more sense.
In reply to I understand why it wasn't… by pianocomposer321
without attaching the score where it "doesn't work right" there is no way to determine if there is a bug or your misunderstanding. The tutorial I wrote was in version 3.something and I'm not aware of any code changes for beaming.
In reply to without attaching the score… by mike320
I just created a new score to test it on again. With all the defaults, the new score is created in 4/4. When I repeated the steps, it worked perfectly. Then I looked back at the score I tried it on originally and noticed it was in 3/4. When I changed the new score to 3/4, the bug happened again.
The score I originally tried it on was just the one that happened to be open when I found out about beaming over a rest. The issue has nothing to do with what score it happened on, except, as I just said, what time signature it's in.
In reply to without attaching the score… by mike320
Here's the score that Shoichi attached with the only change being the time signature.
In reply to Here's the score that… by pianocomposer321
Try: hold down Ctrl->Click C5, E5->double click Beam middle
or better: right click on 3/4 and set the beams (see image)
In reply to Try: hold down Ctrl->Click… by Shoichi
This works, but I already knew how to work around the issue. I made this issue to report a bug, not ask for help.
Thanks anyway, though!
In reply to This works, but I already… by pianocomposer321
Sorry, so go to: https://musescore.org/en/project/issues/musescore
In reply to Sorry, so go to: https:/… by Shoichi
Why do they have two places for reporting bugs?
In reply to Why do they have two places… by pianocomposer321
A banner at the top when I go to create an issue says "For support requests or potential bug reports, please post in the forum."
Is this not a "potential bug report"?
In reply to Why do they have two places… by pianocomposer321
This forum is to solve doubts and find out if the problem has already been reported.
The link above is to get track of the bugs and investigate and fix them.
In reply to This forum is to solve… by Shoichi
I think I understand the issue a little better now, and no longer believe it to be a bug. It is because of the beams grouping defaults for 4/4 and 3/4, and it makes sense the way it is. You probably would never even want to beam over a rest in 3/4 anyway!
Thank you Shoichi, you have been very helpful!
In reply to I think I understand the… by pianocomposer321
You're welcome. Glad that my 2 cents were useful to you ;-)
In reply to Why do they have two places… by pianocomposer321
For the record: think of this forum as the place to ask for help, like if you can't get soemthing to work the way you should and aren't sure if it's because you are doing something wrong or there is a bug or what. Once something is confirmed to be a bug, then it makes sense to report it to the issue teacker so we don't lose track of it.
So, forum is for discussion, issue tracker is for the bottom line bug report.
In reply to This works, but I already… by pianocomposer321
Ok, setting beams in time signature properties works. This may be a good long-term solution. It still seems odd that they would have the defaults different for 4/4 vs 3/3 though.
In reply to Ok, setting beams in time… by pianocomposer321
There are different numbers of beats in 4/4 than 3/4 and neither has every 8th note beamed, what else would you expect. BTW, I have a couple of custom 3/4 time signatures with different beam patterns for the various beam patterns I run into in scores. I keep these in the master palette since there is no easy way to distinguish between them in the time signatures palette.
In reply to There are different numbers… by mike320
I agree: https://musescore.org/en/node/295811#comment-952111