MSCORE 3 CRASHES WHEN CHANGE from 1 LINE STAFF to a 5 LINE STAFF (Unpitched to Pitched Percussion in the Same Staff
OS: Windows 7 SP 1 (6.1), Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore version (32-bit): 3.4.2.9788, revision: 148e43f
FIRST OF ALL, I AM AN EXPERIMENTED USER (I use Mscore from first version and I am a composer student in last year degree) SO, DON'T ANSWER ME WITH OBVIOUS, NOT CHECKED OR EMPTY SOLUTIONS.
I think that there is not an effective way to switch to PITCHED PERCUSSION from a previous 1 line staff. If you try to do as my picture uploaded, the program crashes (and sometimes it deletes my custom shortcuts when I restart!!).
And Yes I did: I used the "S" object and the "Change instrument" text object, but, when I put notes in the 5 line staff it crashes. If I'm lucky and it does not crash at the first attempt, sometimes I can't modify the notes. I mean, only put a F and never E, or G, etc. Yes obviously I tried to put an appropriate clef but it does not allow me, and it crashes if I "insist". Do you want to check it on Mscore 3? Try it out yourself!
And yes, I've read these topics:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/staff-type-change
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/mid-staff-instrument-changes
And also this discussion:
https://musescore.org/en/node/294939
The solution of creating and invisible staff is absolutely annoying but actually seems that this is the only one. Why I have to work on Musescore 3, highly unstable and insecure if that solution works in Musescore 2. I widely prefer Msc2 instead of 3.
Forgive my English and my words. I feel very angry and disappointed.
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Comments
Sorry to hear you are having problems. But to be clear: neither MuseScore 2 nor 3 supports changing from unpatched to pitched on the same staff. Neither should allow you to try, but because it's not something we support, people try all sorts of tricky ways around it and we can't catch them all. And both MuseScore 2 and MsueScore 3 will crash if you try hard enough to get around this limitation. Which is to say, there is no reason to prefer MuseScore 2 here. It is far more limited and doesn't support the staff type change at all, but if you try other methods to change from pitched to unpatched, it will crash just as surely in the end.
Someday we do hope to hope to support this change directly. But until then, yes, the way to do this is to use multiple staves and the "hide when empty: Always" option. At least, it's that simple in MuseScore 3. In MuseScore 2, this feature was not available, you'd have been forced to resort to the global "Hide empty staves" option, not nearly as flexible because then you'd have to manually set every staff not to hide.
As for crashes deleting custom shortcuts or other settings, yes, both MuseScore 2 and 3 save settings on exit, and if there is a crash, that means settings made during the most recent sessions won't be preserved. So it's good idea if you spend a lot of time customizing settings to close and restart MuseScore to make sure you are protected. Note MuseScore 2 was more primitive and would lose all settings on crash. MsueScore 3 saves workspace-related settings (e.g., custom palettes, which are far easier to create in MuseScore 3 also) more regularly, so you actually don't lose as much. You also have the ability to save your custom shortcuts to a file at any time, so you can reload them if something ever happens, or bring them with you to a new computer, etc.
In reply to Sorry to hear you are having… by Marc Sabatella
Thank you Marc as always for your wise tips and words. I will give another change on Mscore 3. But I still think that this feature would be crucial to get future music students to use Musescore (2 or 3). As a user, for next versions, I would settle if this feature was just "visual", I mean, not necessary for make it "sound", just only a functional and stable line-staff change. Anyway, Musescore is by far my favorite scorewriter.
Take care and greetings Marc!
In reply to Thank you Marc as always for… by Astromantis
Indeed, it's something we'd like to see. Meanwhile, though, the old workaround mentioned (with hide empty staves) really does work well on both MuseScore 2 & 3 for both the score and the playback. The only limitation is you can't change mid-system.
But if you don't need the playback, you can get the score looking exactly as you want already, at least in MuseScore 3. Just use a pitched instrument and use the staff type change to change the number of lines without changing instrument. Then add the appropriate note to that one-line staff to get to appear where you want, change the head as necessary, etc. You could even use an invisible staff to get the playback. Or, if the sound you are looking for happens to be one that has its own full-fledged General MIDI sound not just as part of a drumset, you can use an instrument change to change the sound only, again not actually trying to change the instrument to unpitched.
In reply to Indeed, it's something we'd… by Marc Sabatella
I will try it. Thank you Marc!