Page-oriented text object
So far, in my admittedly-limited experience with MuseScore, I have not been able to locate any provision for a page-oriented text object. If there is one, I would be pleased to learn how to construct it.
Why might I want such a thing? Well, on my "working copy" of a score under development, I might like to have a boxed note reading "In Process". Or on some score, a note reading. "For rehearsal only" or "Return to music librarian."
If there is no such provision, I suggest it be added.
Thanks.
Best regards,
Doug
Comments
Something like this?
In reply to Something like this? by Shoichi
Hi, Shoichi,
Yes, exactly, and I see these are all "anchored" to the upper left of the page margins.
How did you make those?
Thanks so much.
Doug
There are a variety of frames. One of those will probably help. See https://musescore.org/en/handbook/frames
In reply to There are a variety of… by mike320
Hi, Mike,
Thanks. I had looked like that.
What threw me off was that in every case, the fist step to make the frame was "select a measure", and I was afraid that if I made a text box, it would be "anchored" to that measure (not what I want).
So I am still missing something!
Thanks.
Doug
In reply to Hi, Mike, Thanks. I had… by Doug Kerr
Shoichi,
Oh, I see that those are anchored to the upper left corner of the frame in which they were born.
Doug
In reply to Shoichi, Oh, I see that… by Doug Kerr
Shoichi,
I see that those were "repurposing" of the Compose, Lyricist, etc. items in the frame that holds the title and those elements.
Of course, I will typically already have those elements in use with their "regular" purposes.
If I add other frames to "host" my test items, the frames would disrupt the score layout.
I don't know how you got the various variations of orientation, but I don't really need that.
Doug
In reply to Shoichi, I see that those… by Doug Kerr
You can insert plain frame text into the title frame also.
Not sure what other frames you might want to add or why, but the only purpose for adding another frame would be to alter the score layout. if you're happy with the score layout already, then you shouldn't want more frames.
Maybe if you posted an actual example it would be clearer what you are trying to do and where the disconnect is.
In reply to You can insert plain frame… by Marc Sabatella
Marc,
You wrote (I don't yet know how to quote when replying!):
Well, that's the key! I had not earlier known about the working of "add" in the context menu.
Adding text in the "title" frame should really be the way to do this!
Attached is an example. This is really what I wanted all along!
Thanks again.
Doug
In reply to Hi, Mike, Thanks. I had… by Doug Kerr
Well, it's is not "anchored" to the measure, it actually is a measure internally, just a special measure that contains text and images rather than notes and rests. So you're really inserting the frame as a new measure in front of the first measure. Which is what you want, if the goal is to have text at the top of the score. Even if you insert new measures, just insert them before the first actual measure, and they will appear between the frame and the old first measure, just as you want.
In reply to Well, it's is not "anchored"… by Marc Sabatella
Hi, Marc,
Gotcha.
Lemme try something based on that insight.
Ah, I can make a "horizontal" frame just before the first measure of the score, but I can't figger out how to get any text into it!
Thanks.
Doug
In reply to Hi, Marc, Gotcha. Lemme try… by Doug Kerr
Marc:
Ah, I see if I right click on the new frame I can choose to add text.
And of course once I do, I can move the text item any place I want.
I would rather it not be "anchored" to the first staff, but that will not usually be a problem.
It takes a while for an old Scottish telephone engineer (hint: not Alexander Graham Bell) to find the way through a thing like this.
Thanks for your help.
Doug
In reply to Marc: Ah, I see if I right… by Doug Kerr
Attached is my first oeuvre in this regard.
Thanks all for your help.
Doug
In reply to Attached is my first oeuvre… by Doug Kerr
If you want the text object on every page, you can of course put it in a header or footer. The downside is that there are not many formatting options. However, you can specify its position to be left, centre or right and, as I recently found out, you can use html tags to specify its size using TEXT where x is the point size, bolding with TEXT and italicising with TEXT. There may be other tags that work, but I haven't found them yet.
In reply to If you want the text object… by SteveBlower
Hmm, my html tags were removed when I posted that. I'll try again when I have found out how to get them show up in a post.
In reply to Hmm, my html tags were… by SteveBlower
Got it:
The font size can be specified using
<font size="xx">TEXT</font>bolding by
<b>TEXT</b>italicising by
<i>TEXT</i>In reply to <font size="20"> by SteveBlower
Hi, Steve,
The specific kinds of marking about which I inquired are only needed on one page (mostly on page 1), but putting things in a header or footer may turn out to be useful some times.
Which brings to mind another concern; it seems that in general one of the options for a header or footer object is not "page 1 only".
But that is for another day!
Thanks for your help.
Doug
In reply to Hi, Steve, The specific… by Doug Kerr
You can put the copyright (from score properties) only on page 1. You can use this to your advantage if you have no copyright or want to put copyright on every page, just enter the text in the header or footer.
In reply to You can put the copyright … by mike320
Given all the above, with regard to the needs that motivated my original suggestion, I think those needs can be met well within the current capabilities.
Thanks all for contributing to my education.
Doug
In reply to Hi, Steve, The specific… by Doug Kerr
Horizontal frames are designed to created horizontal space, to space to the left of the first system of music. if that's what you want, great, but from your description, it isn't.
So in your example, the horizontal frame is the wrong answer. It creates space where you don't want it - to the left of the first system - and then requires manual adjustment of the text to put it where you actually want (top right of page. This won't work if the page size changes, the margin changes, etc. As explained previously, to get the text to appear where your example shows, simply add it to the existing title frame, and set its alignment to top right. That is what this feature was designed for and it works perfectly, no need to confuse the issue with horizontal frames or headers.
In reply to Horizontal frames are… by Marc Sabatella
Yes, of course, to all that. And I am now adding these to the Title frame. But at first I had no idea how to do that. I finally realized that if I right click in the Title frame, etc. etc. Of course you guys all knew that! And probably figgered that I did too.
Thanks again.
Doug
In reply to Yes, of course, to all that… by Doug Kerr
The attached score file illustrates my use of the Title frame to provide "page-oriented" text objects.
Doug