issue with unmetrical notes
I seem to have hit a snag in my note entry using the unmetrical organ template. In the phrase "ae-ter-num san-ctis". There is something wrong with the count, I think. I can't get the alto notes to line up as it is shown in the original. I would appreciate some help.
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Comments
The top B is not dotted.
In reply to The top B is not dotted. by jeetee
The top B note is dotted. I think the note below it should be a half-note, not a dotted quarter.
In reply to The top B note is dotted. I… by Don9of11
Not in the PDF you attached (note that it is also not dotted in the other version down the page):
So from what I read there, the attached is what you'd end up with
In reply to Not in the PDF you attached … by jeetee
How did you do that? When I try doing that, it puts the notes in the wrong spot. I must not have the correct count somewhere?
In reply to How did you do that? When I… by Don9of11
I think I just figured out what I am doing wrong. I think I need to adjust the actual measure properties.
In reply to How did you do that? When I… by Don9of11
What I did was select the notes you had already entered, starting on the 1/8th of the "sanctis" till the end of the measure.
Then I opened the selection filter (F6) and unchecked voice 2. Now I cut the selected notes, clicked on the 1/8th rest where they should be and pasted.
This now leaves an additional 1/8th rest at the end of the measure; click it and "remove selected range" (Ctrl/Cmd + Del) to adjust the actual measure duration.
In reply to What I did was select the… by jeetee
I corrected the note entry in the top of the measure; not sure why I did that! Now the tenor and bass notes beginning with "Dominum", there are some quarter notes. I don't think I have those spaced correctly and I am not sure what to do there. Also, in the 3rd measure the text for "e-um" and the remaining verses "ma-net" and "sae-cu", seems there should be a note. Sorry for all the questions.
In reply to I corrected the note entry… by Don9of11
Those things are indeed a bit more tricky, and have multiple ways of solving them. I'll document my steps.
2nd system - bottom staff
Those three quarter notes for the bass seem quite evenly spaced (in the PDF) to me, which is why I decided to make them as a triplet. To create a triplet, one has to always start from the total duration it should occupy; so click on the G and then set the duration to a breve (8), thus matching the duration from the top staff.
Now go to "
Add → Tuplets → Other…
" and set the ratio of 3/8 (give us three things notated as the thing that would normally fit 8 times into the duration) whilst putting both the number and bracket format to "None
". Now enter the F and the E.We'll use the same triplet trick for the Tenor voice. Select start position, make it a breve (8), add a tuplet with ratio 3/8 without formatting. Then enter the notes within the tuplet: ← Q 5 E. Select the D at the start of the system and press + to restore the tie.
[optional] I think the intention is for these bottom notes to continue sounding whilst the soprano sings the "om" from "omnes". To do so, you can enter the notes and tie them from the triplet endnote, then mark those notes and the ties invisible instead of the invisible rest you currently have.
Likewise, I'd make the G in the bas (on "nes" of "omnes") a dotted note and hide the dot (or similarly, tie to an invisible 1/8th note. The tenor note will keep sounding due to the tie anyhow. So to that end, remove the slur you currently have and place a tie instead.
2nd system - top staff
First select the D and C in the soprano for "om" (of "omnes") and press X to flip their direction and force it upwards.
Now to the small notes. You'll want to make sure to use the "small" checkbox from the "
Chord
" section of the inspector and not the "Note
" section. So for the C of omnes, you'll want to undo the small check for the note, then use the one for the chord instead. This will also scale the stem and flag accordingly.However you'll notice the parenthesis overlapping the flag now (and imho being a bit close on the left side as well). To fix that, give the left parenthesis an X-offset of
-0,10sp
and the right one0,80sp
.Then to the same for the A in "gentes".
3rd system
I'd indeed expect a (hidden) note to be required for the e-um syllable. The easiest way to add it given the current situation, is to use Insert mode. Which for just a single note you can do using the
Ctrl+Shift
modifier keys (Cmd+Shift on Mac).Start by clicking on the A where the "um" from "e-um" will end up. Go into note input mode (N) and press Ctrl+Shift+A which will insert another 1/8th A right in front of the current beat. Mark the rests in the other voices invisible. Give the insert A the beaming the beam property single and also make it invisble
In reply to Those things are indeed a… by jeetee
Thank you for your insights and help on this it is very much appreciated. I will have to study it carefully.
In reply to Thank you for your insights… by Don9of11
Once you get the notes entered, are you planning to enter the text as well? If so, when you get to the verses--the texts under the recitation tones--I suggest you read the handbook entry on lyrics very closely--remembering there is a difference between [spacebar] and CTRL-[spacebar].
In reply to Once you get the notes… by wfazekas1
If you looked at the provided attachments from the OP you'll notice (s)he's figured that out already.
In reply to If you looked at the… by jeetee
It would seem in a couple of the previous post I uploaded the wrong piece of music which is probably quite confusing to everyone. I didn't realize I had done this until this morning. My bad!