Default Strings in String Orchestra template (3.6.2)
MuseScore 3.6.2 String Orchestra template defaults to set of solo string instruments
instead of a section. Shall I file this as a minor bug?
Violin : Violins
Viola : Violas
Violoncello : Violoncellos
Contrabass : Contrabasses
https://musescore.com/devstakcreations/ms3-tip-violin-vs-violins
Comments
Not a bug as far as I can tell, that template has 5 instruments, all singular, Violin I, Violin II, Viola, Violoncello and Contrabass. Looks pretty different from what you show here.
In reply to Not a bug as far as I can… by Jojo-Schmitz
I think String Orchestra is comprised of between 12-60 strings (string instrumentalists). The template has 5 solo instruments, which is more like a String Quintet.
Sorry to confuse you - my demo was meant to show Musescore has different soundfont for string 'section' instead of string 'solo'.
Other templates under MuseScore, Classical Orchestra and Symphony Orchestra, do come up correctly with string sections. Also the String Quartet template correctly comes up with 4 solo string parts.
In reply to I think String Orchestra is… by Shaw Takeuchi
Well, yes, it seems to be more of a String Quintet template, maybe we should bove it to the Chamber Music catergory (but maybe not, those usually don't have a COntrabass, but either to violas or 2 violoncellos) and create one with Plurals for the Orchestra category
Like this?
In reply to Well, yes, it seems to be… by Jojo-Schmitz
Yes exactly! I'm proposing your template to replace the existing one!
In reply to Yes exactly! I'm proposing… by Shaw Takeuchi
OK, see https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/8488 (for 3.x) and https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/8489 (for master, 4.0)
In reply to OK, see https://github.com… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thank you! Perfect!
In reply to OK, see https://github.com… by Jojo-Schmitz
Jojo...
Does "MU3 Issue] MuseScore 3.6.3, PRs to be merged and issues to be fixed" portend a version 3.6.3 release?
In reply to Jojo... Does "MU3 Issue]… by Jm6stringer
If it were my decision then yes, certainly!
But as far as I can tell (and have been told) the Powers To Be disagree here :-(
But hope dies last (German proverb) ;-)
In reply to If it were m decision them… by Jojo-Schmitz
I'm not sure i'm bothered by this at all. It's a string orchestra template. Obviously not solo instruments.
In reply to I'm not sure i'm bothered by… by bobjp
I sat on this issue for quite a while... the reason I brought this up is that I came to the realization MuseScore app is very popular with "self-taught" young musicians using this as a learning/experimenting platform. I just didn't want to lead them astray, much like a typo in school text book.
I just saw too many "check out my very first symphony" submissions on Musescore[dot]com site, using single string instruments.
Personally I don't use this template.
In reply to I sat on this issue for… by Shaw Takeuchi
I spend no time at .com, but I'm not surprised that happens. What would be more important to me is if the music is any good. If someone were to gently suggest to the first timer that they might really like string sections instead single instruments, it could be a good lesson. On the other hand, what if they chose solo over sections on purpose. I suspect that many self-taught users don't know the difference anyway. Not their fault.
In reply to I spend no time at .com, but… by bobjp
Yes I stared doing that -- also started posting series of quick-tip tutorials on the .com site, instead of adding my original compositions. (The culture there has changed, and I'm no longer comfortable posting my compositions there.)
For me important part of determining if "music is any good" -- is not just quality of melodic, accompaniment, and fugue/counterpoint flows (Baroque era), but also that of dynamics, blending and texturing orchestration techniques (Romantic era). I tend to work with lots of cross-fading techniques also. These require reasonably accurate instrument mockup (not necessarily pretty) soundfonts to design a composition - MS3 does a good job at this, IMHO.
EDIT: re-edited for clarity 20210703
In reply to Yes I stared doing that --… by Shaw Takeuchi
Sure, everyone's method of determining if "music is any good" is different. A simple melody over a simple accompaniment with an intriguing harmonic progression can be more interesting than something that is complex for the sake of complexity. I've certainly written both, and been accused of falling short in both. Composers tend to be the harshest critics.
In reply to OK, see https://github.com… by Jojo-Schmitz
The PR for master just got merged
In reply to The PR for master just got… by Jojo-Schmitz
Thanks JoJo!