If a measure has the same clef repeated, should there be a clef change in between?
(repost because I deleted the other one)
since these measures were repeated, I know where the clef change should be if needed.
Whether I put the clef change(bass clef) before the circled note or not put the clef change before the circled note, it still sounds ok:
In this particular case, if I put the clef change(to treble clef) before the circled notes, it sounds better:
the pdf that these screenshots are part of is the same pdf that was put here:
https://musescore.org/en/node/324833
Comments
Clef changes normally occur at the begining of the measure, and it's correct for them to appear before the barline, that's how musicians are accustomed to reading them. Under very special circumstances, it can be considered proper to put them after the barline, and if you know for certain that the situation you are dealing with fits those criteria, you can do this the same way as any other mid-measure clef change - select the note you want the change to apply to, then click the clef in the palette.
In reply to Clef changes normally occur… by Marc Sabatella
Thanks for telling me that but does the clef symbol in a clef change ever get omitted if the measure is being repeated or was repeated many times?
In reply to Thanks for telling me that… by wachamcaulid
Mistakes happen, and not all editors understand the rules of music notation, but no, clef changes shouldn't ever be omitted.
In reply to Mistakes happen, and not all… by Marc Sabatella
so another error because the circled notes in the second picture sound right with the clef change(to g clef) but wrong without it?
HAHAHA this is kinda infuriating and amusing
In reply to so another error because the… by wachamcaulid
Hmm...
That score may attest to an interesting bit of history. Consider that back in 1884 there was no radio, no motion pictures, no TV. The phonograph record industry was nascent.
Music publishers (also piano builders) abounded more so than today. (A big upright in the parlor was the #1 venue for entertainment -- piano bench stuffed with sheet music.) One could imagine, that with such abundance, the quality (of both) varied. Apparently Lily Woodruff settled for Lee & Walker to publish. (Hopefully she chose a better piano builder... ;-)
Also... I noticed:
She is named in the copyright, usually I've noticed only the publisher listed there.
(Maybe she self published using them to print sheets?)
In reply to That score may attest to an… by Jm6stringer
no motion picture? There were basic experiments by Muybridge and animation devices but ig just like the phonograph record industry, still recent inventions.
btw do you think there were scanning errors or was it the music sheet itself?
In reply to no motion picture? There… by wachamcaulid
Most likely errata on the sheet itself.
Scanning errors are more like crooked or cutoff pages, dirty scanner glass, -- although a piece of lint accidentally falling between the scanner bed and the sheet, might produce what is mistaken as a score element (e.g., a dot, some ornament ;-)
Put G-Clefs before the chords and F-Clefs before the octaves. Many have been forgotten.