cross voice beams?
is it possible to crate cross voice beams please?
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See the Handbook:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/cross-staff-notation
In reply to See the Handbook: https:/… by DanielR
Thank You, but this is not cross staff. There are both voices in same staff.
I cant do it for voices in same staff.
Workround, I dont like wery much, could be to exchange voices, so notes would be one voice and pauses other and manually shift their y position.
In reply to Thank You, but this is not… by sammik
It's not entirely clear what you need. Perhaps it would help if you made a larger image with 2-3 measures and both staves shown in full?
[Edit] Actually it's clear enough that you want to beam cross-voice. Personally I find that confusing, and the beam angles of the original edition seem very unhelpful to me. But you're right that the only way is a workaround of beaming notes in the same voice and then moving the rests:
In reply to It's not entirely clear what… by DanielR
Exactly!
So, do You think, first is better (more clear) than third?
In reply to Exactly! So, do You think,… by sammik
TBH, I don't feel qualified to offer a definitive answer. Others may offer better advice about this.
In reply to TBH, I don't feel qualified… by DanielR
Why would the notes be beamed if they were in different voices? Beaming is one way of indicating that adjacent notes are in the same voice.
That notation can be achieved with beaming in a single voice, like this: (although the picture in the original post looks like there is s a 7 line stave, I have assumed it is a standard 5 line stave with the lower notes on ledger lines. I have also assumed treble clef.)
BeamX.mscz
The "N" shapes of the beamed notes is achieved by adjusting the handles of the beams.
In reply to Why would the notes be… by SteveBlower
Steve, thank You, yes, this is possible workround (as also Daniel posted).
It is visually correct. I didnt like, that I need to exchange "real" voices for some notes.
So question is, if try to reproduce source in this, or better to create without scrossvoices beams (Daniels example 1)
In reply to Steve, thank You, yes, this… by sammik
If the notes are in the same voice (which the beaming would imply) this is not a workaround but Is the correct way to do it. The "N" shape may be being used in the original just to save vertical space. So, do you have a reason to believe the beamed notes are in different voices?
In reply to If the notes are in the same… by SteveBlower
Probalby personal musical feeling :). Eight rest too.
But your point is not bad point.
Will think about it.
Doblinger transcribed it as different voice (if I understood that edition) too.
![Doblinger.png]( "Doblinger.png")
Please show several bars and both staves to allow people to assess what might be going on and then to potentially help you.
In reply to Please show several bars and… by underquark
Here is whole page (one movement) of violin sonata with bas.
![Allaman.jpg]( "Allaman.jpg")
I'd say that DanielR's second example at the top would be the most intuitive. Anything else would be extremely difficult to read, and aesthetically bizarre. Ultimately though, it's up to you—whatever you think is best for your purposes.