hiding staff lines...
Hello,
I was working on this piece of music and trying to keep everything on one page. In the past I've recomposed a different ending to my pieces so that it stays within the given of measures of the first page, but today I didn't want to do that. So as you can see on the bottom, the coda has an additional measure so the piece can end on a PAC, however the original melody and accompaniment does not. I've tried inspector to make them invisible but that doesn't work and they show up when printed. So is there a way to completely hide that empty extra measure with staff lines also hidden and possibly format the measures before it to where it fits flush with space of the paper?
Thanks,
Jason
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I'm not really understanding what you are trying to do. Are you saying there is a measure that the end of the system that only one instrument plays on, the instruments simply rest? In which case, you can't just hide that measure, the others musiciains need to know there is a rest there. But, I don't think that's what you are actually saying - it just isn't obvious what you do mean. Can you attach the actual score instead of just a picture, and explain in more detail?
In reply to I'm not really understanding… by Marc Sabatella
Yes to your first question and no at the same time. So my score is only two pages, page one has the choral parts and accompaniment, and page 2 is the chant. I wanted the Coda on page one on the bottom so I added another piano and flute and composed an ornamented Coda on the bottom that only those two instruments play and this is known in the services I play at. The Coda has one extra measure to end at a final PAC, since these are just instruments that I added and a measure, it also adds a measure to the response "The Lord is Kind and Merciful" above. I don't want that additional measure to be showing at all, I've used the inspector and tried to hide them but when I print out the score the barlines are showing up after the double-barred measure. I want them to be gone entirely.
In reply to Yes to your first question… by jason.euresti
If you don't want the measure at all, why not simply delete it (eg, select, then press Ctrl+Delete)? Sorry, I'm still not at all understanding what you are trying to do here. But, I'm also not understanding the score itself. Do you literally mean for the coda to played at the same time as the rest of the music? That's how you've set it up, but it doesn't make sense to me. If this is a coda, it should come after the main music, not just as an additional piano on the same system. Do you really intend there to be two pianos and two flutes playing at once, with one piano playing the coda at there same time the other piano is accompanying the choir? That's what's happening now. My guess is that instead of two pianos playing at once, it's really meant to be just one piano, and they play the coda after the result of the music.
In reply to If you don't want the… by Marc Sabatella
You're reading the score as if all the parts play at the same time and that is not the case. Like I said I put the coda at the bottom of the score because I'm keeping everything on one page, there is no where else to put the coda because this score is an 11x17 paper, with that being said it is big enough to have extra music on the bottom, which is why I just added two parts and moved them down so they're separate from the top system. So no two pianos and two flutes do not play at the same time. Just to understand the responsorial psalm, the choir sings along with the piano accompaniment to "The Lord is Kind and Merciful" then they sing a verse and it goes back to the response back and forth until its completed. So after verse three is sung, the choir sings the response one more time at the end of that, the coda will be played and its just the two instruments playing, piano and flute. If you look at how I composed this music the first beat and the last beat of the 10th measure are the same making the change from response to verse seamless, as is the same with the coda. So you guessed correctly, but now that we know what I'm doing the issue is the top system of music has that extra measure and I just want it to be gone/invisible with staff lines as well...you can't cmd +delete because it will delete the PAC ending on the bottom in the coda section, that one measure.
In reply to You're reading the score as… by jason.euresti
You wrote:
You're reading the score as if all the parts play at the same time and that is not the case.
So why did you enter it that way?
The entire first page consists of a single system, which means that all staves are played concurrently. So your coda is played right from the start, together with the other instruments. Since all measures in a system must line up, those empty extra measures at the end are needed because the coda has an additional measure.
Now...
If you do not care about MuseScore's playback, and you wish to hide the empty measures so they don't appear on a 11x17 sheet of paper, it will look like this:
The Lord is Kind and Merciful Pentatonic_2.pdf
In reply to You wrote: You're reading… by Jm6stringer
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In reply to You wrote: You're reading… by Jm6stringer
It finally loaded. Okay, how did you do that? That's the whole purpose of this.
In reply to It finally loaded. Okay, how… by jason.euresti
For that attached pdf file, I used the line from the lines palette, unchecked 'Automatic placement' in the Inspector, made the line vertical and stretched it to span the empty measures. I also increased the 'Line thickness' to cover the measures and colored the line white so it wouldn't show when printed.
Earlier you wrote:
So is there a way to completely hide that empty extra measure with staff lines also hidden and possibly format the measures before it to where it fits flush with space of the paper?
To make it flush with the margin of the paper it must be in a system unto itself, independent of the coda's system (which has an extra measure). In music notation, systems are evenly justified to the page's right side margin. The ends of the staves align, with measures being stretched or compressed to make this happen.
Here's another pdf:
The Lord is Kind and Merciful Pentatonic_3.pdf
Taken from your attachment -- though the top flute staff should be grouped with the instruments below so as not to look like it may be a separate system.
EDIT: Correct file now attached
In reply to You're reading the score as… by jason.euresti
As mentioned, you definitely entered it that way, and that's the source of the problem. If you didn't intend these measures to all be played simultaneously, you should have simply inserted new measures and used the staves you already had rather than reusing the same measures but adding new staves, which by definition will always be synchronized with the existing ones. Even if you don't plan to use the playback for anything, MuseScore still lays out your music according to standard rules of notation, so it's important to notate it correctly to get the correct result for layout as well as playback. Measures meant to be played consecutively rather than simultaneously need to be entered as separate measures, not additional staves for the same measures. The fact that you entered them as if you wanted them to be simultaneous is exactly why you have that "extra" measure you don't want. Your coda is longer than the phrase it was meant to follow, but you didn't actually place it after the original phrase - you placed ity as if you wanted it to to be synchronized, so that's exactly what MuseScore did.
Simply add the measures for the coda normally and copy the existing music from the extraneous staves into those measures, then delete the extraneous staves.
In reply to As mentioned, you definitely… by Marc Sabatella
You had me thinking and that worked!! I don't know why I've been doing it the first way for a long time.