This may have been asked before (Musescore 4). i would like to know how to remove rests between notes
This is probably at different measures. I am using voice 1, and I am new at using this program. Up until now, I have adjusted how I add notes, and probably sometimes replaced rests with notes. However, at the beginning of one part, there should be basically where a song verse is, and I am wanting to start with the right hand notes, and the chords with the left hand, but Muse score wants me to have the rests, then start with notes with the right hand, but not allow chords with the left hand. it wants me to wait until the second note on the right hand to add the chords in that measure or whatever. It does not work with this song.
I want to change that so the chord is at the beginning. How might I do that? I think that if the rest was at the end of the previous measure, it would be fine. But musescore does not allow me to delete rests outright. the multiple adding of rests is not enabled in format, and the settings section only seems to have an import and export option for xml files.
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Please post a score that shows the problem you are having.
In reply to Please post a score that… by bobjp
Is it okay to post a jpg screenshot? it is not an original score, but rather a transcription of a song I am trying to learn since I am learning keyboard. I am trying to learn music theory, and self-teach myself. What is the proper way to show that I am having problems by transcribing a song for personal use? Then also show that the editing is problematic? I can circle rests and explain them with photoshop or something.
In reply to Is it okay to post a jpg… by JCM2023
You can post score here for problem resolution.
If you want to feel more secure about it, as the problem you're describing can be shown by posting only a couple of measures, just delete everything except the smallest necessary to show your problem, and just post that tiny bit.
Or create a new tiny score with random notes but same silence issue and post that one.
In reply to You can post score here for… by frfancha
If you go from the end of the 4th line to the 5th in the beginning, I cannot add chords where it says "suffering" until the second note. There is a situation that i might not be able to put certain types of notes, and the chords cannot always be on those notes. I am a beginner with the notation, but I don't always see the chords placed with the notes when they are played longer, and so the chords are listed later. If you look on the second line, I was also forced to put the chords later, and so some notes are "written" differently. To me, they look like they begin with a longer note, then end with a shorter note, but it is over a longer period of time, and smoother.
However, that line that I mentioned initially, shows that i cannot add the chords with the left hand where I want to. Musescore 4 makes me either replace those rests, or put the chords after the second right hand note where the right hand begins. I would like to be able to freely put chords, and also if I decide to integrate chords and new notes with the left hand, to change my interpretation, I would like to do that.
However, there are rests all over the place, that I cannot seem to remove. I am not sure if there is a way to simply remove those and place notes, or alternatively, start over, and actually choose to place rests where i want them to be, as well as all of the notes and chords. This would be helpful as well if I want to do the same when creating something of my own on a computer system.
In reply to If you go from the end of… by JCM2023
That's not the score, just an image of it.
In reply to That's not the score, just… by Jojo-Schmitz
i edited out my name after exporting it. what format is needed? it shows PDF, xml, and image files in Muse score. there is an mscz or something file.
In reply to i edited out my name after… by JCM2023
Do not export nor change the format, just post the true Musescore file
In reply to Do not export nor change the… by frfancha
Is that the mscz file?
In reply to Is that the mscz file? by JCM2023
yes, the mscz file
In reply to Do not export nor change the… by frfancha
i am attaching the file. i believe that i have tried the other suggestion before to replace the rests with the chords. I would like to try to put the chords under the first note though in that measure. It seems to only let me due so in the first rest in the bass staff, or where the second rest is in that part. I would like to do so right after the first rest, and not skip a note.
In reply to i am attaching the file. i… by JCM2023
Okay, think I understand what you want now. In measure 20, select the rest and press 5 (this will change the rest into two quarter rests). You can now select the second rest, press N and enter the chord.
During Note Entry you can also enter rest, this is done the same way as notes. Select the duration you need first, and then click the rest icon in the Note Entry toolbar or by press 0.
The lyrics in measure 16 have been moved. It belongs to the second note in the measure, and that why the measure is streched. Select the "wide," lyric text and press CTRL+R to reset the position.
Hope this helps, don't hesitate to ask more question if you need more help.
In reply to Okay, think I understand… by Henk De Groot
Thanks for your input. I am wondering if you know how i might place any note in probably measure 22 where the word "arms" is in the bass clef.
In reply to Thanks for your input. I am… by JCM2023
The word "arms" is on the fourth beat of a 4/4 measure, so you will need to enter enough rests to cover the first 3 beats. After doing that, you will be able to enter a note on beat 4.
(Notation is entered from left to right, starting with beat 1.)
If you compare (in the bass clef) measure 21 with measure 22 you can see that measure 21 has the first 2 beats covered with a half rest and the second 2 beats covered with another half rest. Measure 22 has a single full measure rest which covers the entire measure of 4 beats.
In reply to The word "arms" is on the… by Jm6stringer
can i enter a half rest and quarter rest beneath notes? if so, what commands? i am new to this. I probably did not manually enter some of those rests. why does the program require so many rests?
In reply to can i enter a half rest and… by JCM2023
MuseScore deals in music notation, and music notation uses rests - it's been that way for centuries. The only way music notation has ever had for showing a note on beat 4 is to first have notes or rests occupying the first thread beats - that's just how music notation works.
Putting rests beneath notes on the same staff is referred to in music as multiple voices - two different rhythms expressed on the same staff. See the Handbook section page on working with multiple voices in the Basics chapter for more. Actually, the whole Basics chapter is worth a read to get a handle on, well, the basics of entering music notation into MuseScore.
Also see my beginning tutorial video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIMFQ7s31DM
In reply to MuseScore deals in music… by Marc Sabatella
i understand to an extent, but not totally. i basically am not allowed to enter chords in many places. I can see that i need to put all these different types of rests, and there needs to be different types of timings in terms of these rests, however, I cannot put chords frequently when I want to put them. In that whole line, I cannot put any chords where I would like to. I am hoping to make some kind of sheet music simply to help myself practice for the time being, then as I learn more, I can advance to better notation. I might not need to work out how the numerical keys work with my version for the rests, as it didn't seem to work for me. For me, this is a tool to use in conjunction with other learning tools, then it some point, I may be able to utilize it for creation as well.
In reply to i understand to an extent,… by JCM2023
You are allowed to enter a chord anywhere the normal rules of music notation allow there to be a chord. If you have a score where there is a place you believe the rules of music notation allow a chord to be entered but you are having trouble seeing how to do it, simply attach the score here and say where, and we're happy to help.
In reply to You are allowed to enter a… by Marc Sabatella
i don't yet know completely what the normal rules are, but I understand that there are different beats for different notes, as well as different types of rests that have different timing. I noticed that there was some other comments relating to that, and I was looking at the video, and the basics, and I believe I had looked at other things. I am not advanced. It looks like I can see rests placed periodically in different pieces, and some do not have them constantly, but some might. This is basically the same as what i previously attached, but it is adjusted a little more. I looked at a reference that showed the quarter rest, and two of the other rests, but I noticed that this program shows a rest I am not familiar with yet. The same line in measure 21, in the bass cleff, under the word safe, i wanted to put more beats in the chord, but it didn't allow me to. In measure 22, I wanted to put a chord under the word arms, but it didn't allow me to as well. I am not sure how to change the rests. I was not able to type the numerical key of 5 to enter any rests. I am also seemingly needing to have a note selected at the same time as the rest on the menu.
In reply to i don't yet know completely… by JCM2023
Number keys don't enter rests - they select durations. This is the same for notes and rests - first select the duration (using number keys or the toolbar), then enter the notes or rest (using letters for notes and 0 for rests, or left-click for notes, right-click for rests). Definitely worth re-reading the Handbook section on note input and/or any tutorial videos you've seen.
Anyhow, I've loaded your score, and I'm looking at measure 21. This measure has four beats already. You can't add beats, that would be too many beats. Again, that's just how music works - each measure has a certain number of beats. I'm guessing you are misunderstanding something fundamental here about music, but it isn't clear what.
As for measure 22, there is already a note there under the word arms. If you're saying you want to add more notes to make it a chord, that's fine - just select the existing note and press Shift+letter to add notes to the chord, or in note input mode, just click there to add more notes. I would note, though, that you've entered the rests in that measure incorrectly. Three beats of rests should be shown with a single half rest followed by a single quarter rests, not two quarter rests and two eighth rests. But it's easy to fix, just go back to the beginning of the measure and re-enter those rests correctly (in note input mode, 6 0 5 0).
In reply to If you go from the end of… by JCM2023
I cannot "see" any reason why MuseScore will prevent you to enter a chord in measure 20. Which method are you using to enter?
Rests cannot be removed from a measure. All measures should have the total length covered by either notes or rests, hence why you cannot delete the rest. Rest can be replaced by notes and notes can be replaced by rest.
Not sure what is happing in measure 16, that does not seem to be how it formatted by default. Looks like the lyric text is having extra spaces or has been manually moved. The actual mscz file would help here to verify that.
Here is how I would enter a chord in measure 20:
In reply to If you go from the end of… by JCM2023
BTW, you never need to remove rests if you want to replace them with notes - just put in the notes directly on top of the rests, and the rests go away.
In reply to BTW, you never need to… by Marc Sabatella
Hi, i don't know if i need to upload an updated file, but i noticed on what i have, that between measures 14-15 at least, in the words "flows like" where there is a change in notes in both clefs, but middle C is not played with the second word. I think I am meaning to have that key played longer for the bass clef. Is that the only way to notate it? There may be a similar notation that I need to adjust, as yesterday I was going through it, and found that some part didn't match up.
In reply to Hi, i don't know if i need… by JCM2023
I'm not sure I understand the question, but if you are asking if a tie is the right way to indicate a note that sustains into the next measure, the answer is yes, that is one of the main purposes of ties.
In reply to I'm not sure I understand… by Marc Sabatella
i don't know if i am repeating something i said before. i may need to go back through something. i apologize if so. on my current version, i noticed in measure 22 compared to 23, it looks like the chords under the word "arms" for the bass cleff would sound better for the next note in measure 23. I recall some discussion about the types of rests and beats. I am wondering if I can put that in measure 23. i have a half rest and two quarter rests, but can that chord in measure 22 be moved to the next note in measure 23?
In reply to i don't know if i am… by JCM2023
I still don't really understand, but sure, you can move notes, lyrics, or other markings from one place to another via cut & paste.