MuseScore 4.2
Hello Everyone Chris here i need help
i have been trying FOR 1 HOUR to install MuseScore 4.2
to no avail.
i have been using the terminal
here is the problem
Edit: okay everyone just to be clear "tails" is my username
the distribution i'm using is Ubuntu. i have installed libfuse2 but i still get the same error :(
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Not sure. I think this happened to me previously. For a while I have been putting the AppImages into a directory called AppImages and all have installed OK from there. Might just be a coincidence, though.
So you are using tails?
Does the MS Appimage run without installing? Can other Appimage programs running on this OS?
What you can try (IMHO)
-run the appimage with the check-depends option
-check if libfuse2 is installed (i doubt it)
-extract the Appimage - with --appimage-extract parameter. After this, you can run the squashfs-root/bin/mscore4portable executable. (and run any troubleshooting tool you want)
I wonder why somebody would want to use tails for daily use.
In reply to So you are using tails? Does… by graffesmusic
MS AppImage does not run nor I'm I able to install .
I have tried installing and run other AppImage programs to no avail .
But i'll try what you said. But "tails" is my username :)
i'm using Ubuntu
Could be your system doesn't have libfuse2 installed - that is needed in order to install or run AppImages. Usually, though, you get a better error than that. What distribution is this?
In reply to Could be your system doesn't… by Marc Sabatella
Marc,
I guess from the screenshot, this is 'tails':
https://tails.net/
This is not made for daily use.
In reply to Marc, I guess from the… by graffesmusic
Ah, so likely need to sudo it (or equivalent), enter a password, etc. Entirely related to the OS rather than MS, in that case.
In reply to Marc, I guess from the… by graffesmusic
"tails" is my user name I'm using Ubuntu
In reply to Could be your system doesn't… by Marc Sabatella
Ubuntu
Those are both strange errors. Does the dialog shown in the second image pop up when you run the command shown in the first, or when you do something different? The dialog seems to show the file is - or is believe to be - in your Desktop folder instead of your main home directory. Is it perhaps a symbolic link that isn't set up correctly?
Also, what happens if you run the AppImage from the command line without the install option?
In reply to Those are both strange… by Marc Sabatella
Second Image is when i execute it. my file is in the download folder
do you suggest i move it to my home folder ? or my tails folder which is in the home folder.
the tails folder is what has my other programs.(you'll see it in image below)
sorry i don't quite understand what you mean by. Running the AppImage from the command line without the install option. do you mean something like this: ./MuseScore-4.2.0.233521125-x86_64.AppImage.
if you want more images i can send
sorry if i'm not that much help at explaining the problem
In reply to Second Image is when i… by christopher2024note
Your original screenshot appeared to show you being in your home folder, not a separate download folder. Unless you have created Desktop and Documents subfolders within your download folder for some reason?
When you say the second image is when you execute it, how are you executing it, if it isn't installed, and you're not doing it from the command line? Do you mean double-clicking the AppImage from within a file browser? And yes, when I mean running it without the install option, I mean just typing the same thing but leaving out the "install". This should run it normally and print any error messages to your terminal window.
I know these seem like nitpicky things, but such is the nature of computers - if things are set up incorrectly, they don't work. And it seems something is amiss here, it just isn't clear yet what.
In reply to Your original screenshot… by Marc Sabatella
yes it was outside of the download folder but now it back in
In reply to Second Image is when i… by christopher2024note
BTW, a web search on the error message shown in your first screen shot suggest it might be a version problem in one of your system libraries. What version of Ubuntu is this?
I don't know understand all the details, but see for instance this - https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-8808834.html?sid=a033ffc1eb4408ae…
Apparently if you run "ldd" on the AppImage, it may tell you about such issues in more detail.
In reply to BTW, a web search on the… by Marc Sabatella
One cannot run ldd on an Appimage.
For that, and any other diagnostic tool, one needs to extract the Appimage. See above.
(Sorry about the confusion about tails)
In reply to One cannot run ldd on an… by graffesmusic
Sorry, you're right - I saw another thread where ldd was used to diagnose the problem, but it wasn't an AppImage. The thread I referenced actually uses lddtree, which isn't installed on my system but I guess looks inside AppImages. You can install it from "pax-utils".
In reply to One cannot run ldd on an… by graffesmusic
It's okay :) i should have stated which distribution i was using in the first place. Thank you
In reply to BTW, a web search on the… by Marc Sabatella
By executing i double clicked it.
and the version of Ubuntu is 23.10 . The image below is the command without the "install"
i'll take a look at the link you sent
In reply to By executing i double… by christopher2024note
Perhaps some setting in your bash or terminal options.
What happens if you do
exec ./MuseScore-4.2.0.233521125-x86_64.AppImage
from command line?
Check log file: .local/share/MuseScore/MuseScore4/logs and syslog
In reply to Perhaps some setting in your… by graffesmusic
Run Exec ./MuseScore-4.2.0.233521125-x86_64.AppImage
Gives this
bash: /home/tails/Downloads/MuseScore-4.2.0.233521125-x86_64.AppImage: cannot execute: required file not found
In reply to Run Exec ./MuseScore-4.2.0… by christopher2024note
Ubuntu 23.10 is of course very recent. I wonder if other people have the same problem with this OS.
Do other Appimages work? (you could try e.g. Kushview Element for Linux Appimage - https://kushview.net/element/download/ )
Other things you could do (see my first comment):
-run the appimage with the check-depends option
-extract the Appimage with --appimage-extract parameter. After this, you can run the squashfs-root/bin/mscore4portable executable. (and run any troubleshooting tool you want, including ldd)
The sha256 checksum of the latest Appimage is:
sha256sum MuseScore-4.2.0.233521125-x86_64.AppImage
b32011c4c75436f286d9b780772325d6b87463b6a6c9da8d6d4deefd5fdd629f MuseScore-4.2.0.233521125-x86_64.AppImage
Perhaps the Appimage is corrupted (i doubt this but one never knows)
Just to make sure: you do have executable rights on the file?
What's the output of ls -l
If i find some time, i'll install a VM with Ubuntu 23.10 to check this.
In reply to Ubuntu 23.10 is of course… by graffesmusic
okay so i ran the
the ls -l in the terminal and this is the output
-rwxrwxrwx 1 tails tails 170329280 Jan 11 09:05 MuseScore-4.2.0.233521125-x86_64.AppImage
I also ran the sha256sum and it gave me this
b32011c4c75436f286d9b780772325d6b87463b6a6c9da8d6d4deefd5fdd629f MuseScore-4.2.0.233521125-x86_64.AppImage
and i tried the other things they all gave me...
Cannot Execute: Required file not found.
i don't man. i'm losing hope ....
In reply to okay so i ran the the ls -l… by christopher2024note
Did you try lddtree as I suggested above? It should show the problem library if that’s the issue. See https://musescore.org/en/node/358957#comment-1223014
In reply to Did you try lddtree as I… by Marc Sabatella
Agree. To do so:
sudo apt install pax-utils
and then
lddtree MuseScore-4.2.0.233521125-x86_64.AppImage
MuseScore-4.2.0.233521125-x86_64.AppImage => ./MuseScore-4.2.0.233521125-x86_64.AppImage (interpreter => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1
libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
Also, please try with another Appimage, to determine if the problem is in the MS Appimage or on your computer.
E.g. Audacity Appimage from https://www.audacityteam.org/
It will only take you some minutes.
In reply to To do so: sudo apt install… by graffesmusic
Okay so i ran "lddtree" here's what i got
MuseScore-4.2.0.233521125-x86_64.AppImage (interpreter => /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2)
libdl.so.2 => None
libpthread.so.0 => None
libz.so.1 => None
libc.so.6 => None
I tried other AppImage... they Also Don't work
In reply to Okay so i ran "lddtree" here… by christopher2024note
So apparently your system is missing some pretty fundamentally important libraries - tough to get much done on Linux without working versions of libc! I guess your system must have either very old or very new versions only. Not good for compatibility, but unfortunately that seems to be a big problem in the Linux world.
Are you sure you installed libfuse2 and not a newer or older version of that? As far as I know that should also install other needed dependencies, but maybe it was just assumed all Linux systems would have these. or maybe something went wrong installing libfuse2.
Anyhow, the problem seems to be inherent to Ubuntu 23 and AppImnages and not specifically about MsueScore at all. So I'd recommend checking some Ubuntu forums to see what they recommend in terms of making AppImages work. I gather there is a lot of finger pointing going on in the Linux world about the practices and who to blame when things go wrong. To me, it was irresponsible for Ubuntu to put out a release that doesn't support AppImage out of the box, but hopefully by now people have figured out the right solution.
In reply to So apparently your system is… by Marc Sabatella
I guess there is a problem with the the library path of the user tails. Did you mess with $PATH and/or $LD_LIBRAY_PATH? Probably you have other problems than just with Appimages.
You can check this by creating a new user and check if you have the same problem with this new user.
Also, you can check if it works with root user (but don't run MS as root on a daily basis)
On Ubuntu, libraries are configured system wide under /etc/ld.so.conf and /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*
Unless you want to do something really weird - and you know what you are doing - there is no need to change these paths.
I really do not think Ubuntu has put out a release that cannot run Appimages (except for libfuse => https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2023/04/enable-flatpak-appimage-ub…. Also see https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/issues/18633 )
In reply to I guess there is a problem… by graffesmusic
I can confirm that the Musescore Linux Appimage (after installing libfuse2) runs perfectly on a fresh default installation of Ubuntu 23.10.
In reply to I guess there is a problem… by graffesmusic
It's the libfuse2 issue I was talking about - that is already bad enough. I was indeed speculating that the problem with the other libraries was connected to libfuse2 - wrong dependencies being loaded or whatever. Sounds like from what you are saying this isn't the case, though.
Bad LD_LIBRARY_PATH path is of course a possibility but that would affect more than AppImages. Unless it's just compatibility versions of libc etc that aren't being found whereas other versions are.
At the risk of opening another can of works, though, I feel it's worth asking a bigger picture question here for the OP - why install 23.10 at all? Unless I'm mistaken, this is not a "long term support" release and my understanding is that these "interim" releases are really meant primarily for developers or other expert users needing the latest and greatest or wanting to help test, at the expense of giving up some amount of compatibility and support. At least that's how I always saw this back when I was using Ubuntu in the earlier days.
In reply to It's the libfuse2 issue I… by Marc Sabatella
Personally, i am done with all those 'bleeding edge' Linux distributions (such as Ubuntu 23.10). I stay with LTS and upgrade once every two years. Does everything i need. No surprises.