Exporting divisi parts
I am having troubles exporting nice looking divisi parts from my orchestral score for the strings.
What I want in the score is already achieved. All the violin divisi are in one staff (violins 1).
However, in the parts, I would like ONLY the divisi staves (which are hidden in the score) to show when there is divisi and only the violins 1 staff to show when there is none.
With that said, I cant seem to find a functioning easy to implement solution for the parts because both the violins 1 staff is showing along with the divisi staves. The only solution i thought of is to delete the notes violins 1 part temporarily so it wont show in the parts and bring them back later to make everything as it was but this sounds very unpractical.
What I could use is:
Finding a way to hide staves forcefully
Finding a way to make staves smaller for one row (perhaps possible with measure properties and marking a lot of measures as I need)
Maybe there's a different method, I dont know.
The score is attached. please send help
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Adagio for orchestra Part score.mscz | 1.64 MB |
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Duplicate of https://musescore.org/en/node/376857. Please post further updates there.
In reply to Duplicate of https:/… by TheHutch
No, this is the better post as it contains the score itself. Best to keep discussion here. It's the more appropriate forum in any case.
So, you're referring to the fourth visible staff in the score? What are the two staves above it meant to represent, and why are they bracketed the way they are? And why do you have have to many similarly-named parts generated, but none of them actually open? I'm having trouble sorting out what is meant to be going on. Can you take a step back and describe in big picture terms who is supposed to be playing what? How many actual violin players are you writing for, and how many of them will be reading each part, and which of the parts you have generated were you planning on printing?
In reply to So, you're referring to the… by Marc Sabatella
Okay these are a lot of questions so ill try and take it one by one
For violins one I have 6 violins
in Q1, the score means the violin 1 part of the WHOLE orchestra score? ill assume u speak of the violin 1 parts
I have to ways to divide the violins 1 group: 1 is to a soloist, 3 players, two players. The other is 2 2 2. With that said I maybe should consider diving each violin to a staff of its own considering what's going on in measures 5-6 and the ending.
"And why do you have have to many similarly-named parts generated, but none of them actually open?"
Hide empty in all pages should be enabled if that's an answer
"Can you take a step back and describe in big picture terms who is supposed to be playing what?"
The violin 1 part represent the sum of the whole section (minus the soloist when they're playing) the numbering of violin 2-4 and 5-6 are just more ways to separate them but as I said maybe I should go individual.
"which of the parts you have generated were you planning on printing?"
I see I might have an error because I almost strictly have divisi parts and no unis. parts but if i have unis. parts and divisi parts, I want ONLY the divisi to show when there's divisi and ONLY unis. when there is unison (which is way easier to do)
Perhaps my problem can be solved by just hiding violins 1 (the sum staff) but the criteria of the last paragraph still stands and id like to know how can i accomplish it.
In reply to Okay these are a lot of… by Shayslst
Score means the whole svore, yes - the thing I see when I open it. I see four staves, and I am assuming it's only the fourth staff you are concerned with - the one labels "Violins 1". Are the musicians playing those notes different that the musicians playing the three staves above? If so, again, which part or parts from the long list in the Parts dialog specific is meant to correspond to which staff in the score? I mean psecifically, like what is the name of the part as it shows up in the Parts dialog that you want us to open, and what are the specific staves form the score (hidden or otherwise) - tell us *by name as it appears in the Layout panel do you want it them each to show? It's a huge confusing mess right now and we really can't guess what you are trying to do. Please, slow down and write up in more detail what you are actually trying to do here.\, and be specific about instrument names and part names using the actual names we can see so we know exactly what you are talking about.
In reply to Score means the whole svore,… by Marc Sabatella
Oh geez this is where English as a third language really kicks me in the behind.
From what I understood, I wish for the following:
In the layout you will see three hidden parts, violin 5,6,7 these are the equal divisi parts.
lets assume were making the violins 1 part (i.e the 6 violinists in the violins 1 group) so we would need all the parts in the picture attached below.
I want the "violins 1" part to show when there's unison ( and should there be one )
and i want the violins 5-7 parts to show when theres divisi for the violins 1 part NOT to show
Is that clear enough?
In reply to Oh geez this is where… by Shayslst
Gotcha, except for one missing piece of information - which of the many parts (the things you see list when you click the Parts button have you tried to set up for this? Upon opening them, I don't see any that seem likely candidates. But on the assumption you don't need, say, the part labeled Violin 5 to only show that staff, I'll use that part as an example. You also have a part labeled "Violins 1" but it appears to have lots of other staves that I still don't understand the function of, so I'm going to ignore that.
So start by opening the tab for the "Violin 5" part. In the Instruments panel, unhide Violin 6 and Violin 7. You may want to set them to hide when empty via their staff/part properties, although that isn't totally clear to me from your description (maybe you'd rather see all three staves throughout).
If there are also unison passages or places where you want to show divisi on a single staff in the part, you'll want to use Violin 5 for that so it shows in the part, in addition to Violins 1 for the score. So go back to the score, unhide Violin 5, copy/paste any such unison passages from the Violins 1 staff to Violin 5, then re-hide Violin 5.
If I'm understanding the desired result correctly, this gets it done. The Violins 1 staff will only appear in the score, not the part. Violins 5-7 will only appear in the part, not the score. Any unison passages will be notated on both Violins 1 (for the score) and Violin 5 (for the part), as will any divisi passages you want to show on a single staff in the part. The divisi passages that you want notated on separate staves for the part will be notated on all staves - combined onto Violins 1 for the score, separated onto Violin 5, Violin 6, and Violin 7 for the part.
There are of course other ways this could be organized, but this should accomplish the specific way I understand you to be wanting.