"Ghost" voices on MusicXML and how to delete them

• Nov 30, 2014 - 22:05

I loaded a MusicXML file of a score with 6 staves. It appears that for every part, in addition to the notes I want, there are greyed out rests that I THINK are incorporated as a separate voice in the stave. These rogue rests, however, only appear to be removable one at a time which is going to be rather painful. Is there a more efficient way to clean up the score since I intend to import several more?

Please see attached snippet for an example of the "ghost" voices with rests.

Thanks IAA

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It's difficult to help given only a picture - the actual score is usually far more helpful.

If the rests are all in a voice other than 1, you should be able to right click one and select / more / same voice. But in general, if this came form a scan, you can pretty much expect to spend about as long cleaning it up as it would have to enter the music from scratch.

In reply to by mjzwick

Yeah, unfortunately, ScoreCloud made some decisions in exporting the file that make for a lot more work making it usable. Many of the notes are in voice 2 rather than voice 1, so the invisible rests as in voice 1. You'd have to go through measure by measure and sort out which measure you want to have which voices, and switch them as appropriate using Edit / Voice.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

I will let them know.

However, how in musescore do you show what is voice 1 or 2 or...? These are very clear in ScoreCloud. The Edit/Voice function in musescore seems to be focused on moving the voices, but you were able to determine that the rests that I see are sometimes in 1 and sometimes in 2. I know how to create a new voice in a measure, but not on how to expose the notes in the measure for which voice they belong to.

Thanks IAA

In reply to by mjzwick

I just clicked some notes here and there and looked at their color (blue = voice 1, green = voice 2, etc) and/or watch the voice buttons on the toolbar. Or click one note and juts hit right arrow - which follows a single voice - and watch where it goes. Or, if you prefer to get an overview and do this sort of thing often, you could download and the "colorvoices" plugin (see menu at right of this page).

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

OK, thanks, I understand that better. I might just get the plugin.

Meanwhile, if I select one of the offending rests, right click and say "Cut" nothing happens. I suspect this might indicate a corrupted file. Which means it generated a corrupted file on the MusicXML import.

In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

I attempted to delete with the delete key and nothing happened other than the rest deselecting.

When I select the rest and Set Visible and press the delete key, nothing happens at all.

Is there another method to delete an element?

As pointed out above, my notes are in voice 2, but the rests are in Voice 1 (even the legitimate ones).

In reply to by mjzwick

as said, you cannot delete rests in voice 1...
Just swap voice 1 and 2, then delete the rest which are now in voice 2

And with "you cannot" I don't mean that you're incompetent, but rather that MuseScore just doesn't allow this. Voice 1 is mandatory, either notes or rests, voices 2-4 are optional, so are their rests

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