Tremolo Location
Hi everyone,
Obviously I was working on a score when I noticed that there was an issue with the location of tremolos with eighth notes. The little strikes are much too close to the head of the notes. Usually they are at the opposite, near the beam.
May be I am wrong. What do you think about that?
Have a nice day.
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I guess they try to avoid colliding with the potential flags
See also #29156: Tremolo collides with notehead or beam
You can select several tremolos at the same time and use the inspector to move them. This works ok as long as there are no beams and the stems point the same way and are the same *length.
As you can see, it's not perfect, but it CAN be used to move several tremolos at a time.
In reply to You can select several… by mike320
Thanks for the tip :)
Hi folks. I believe the options for auto placement of tremolo marks on beamed notes (as in PoorFrog's example) still need work. The current "Placement" options in the Inspector are "Default" or "Stem center", neither of which look good for beamed notes. Please tell me if there is some way that I'm not seeing to get tremelo marks to auto place near the beam for beamed notes (I really don't want to move hundreds of tremelo marks manually). It would be great if there were a "Placement" option something like "Near Beam" (applicable to the whole score if desired). Perhaps create two separate styles for tremelo - one for unbeamed and one for beamed? Whatever can be done would be much appreciated. Thanks.
In reply to Hi folks. I believe the… by ViolinViolaEtc
Have you tried the release candidate for 3.5? The defaults are much improved, and there are additional customizations possible was well.
In reply to Have you tried the release… by Marc Sabatella
Hi Marc. I just installed rc 3.5 and opened the file I was working on. There is a an improvement in the auto placement in a couple cases. But, the trem marks are still not placing near the beams and I can't find a way to do that without hand adjusting. Also in Format - Style, I don't see an option to affect Tremelo style. The improvement is good, but do let me know if there is something else I could try that I'm just not finding. Thanks.
In reply to Hi Marc. I just installed rc… by ViolinViolaEtc
There are not style options but properties in the Inspector. But nothing to move it all the way to the beam, just a switch between default and stem center. The default position should already be close to the beam in most cases, but not in the cases where stems are greatly extended due to large leaps = is that what you are referring to?
In reply to There are not style options… by Marc Sabatella
Yes, you understand exactly. It's a bit better now with the latest tweak in 3.5, but I'd be able to match printed sources better (and the music would be a bit easier to read for us string players) if eventually a option was added to auto position the trem marks next to the beams. Thanks for passing that along.
In reply to Yes, you understand exactly… by ViolinViolaEtc
indeed, because the trem is a representation of a beam, trems and beams are read together
Reading about this - the logic behind repetition tremolos is that they are a representation of beams. So it makes sense that they have similar characteristics (the stroke width, the distance between strokes, the distance to the beams being similar to the distance between beams, etc.)
Gould (p.223) shows tremolo strokes placed close to the beams and never to the notes (MuseScore's default), and it even mentions the style in which tremolos are angled parallel to beams, which is found in several scores from literature and seems to be Lilypond's default:
(Maybe this "parallel" to beams option would also be a nice addition)
Thanks for the feedback! This is indeed an issue and I and other developers (Marc for example) are trying to get an idea of how to resolve this.
In reply to Thanks for the feedback!… by Howard-C
thanks.