Trill to half-step?
Hi Y'all,
Just wondering. I'm writing a Pirates of the Caribbean Medley and I'm writing Up is Down. However, I am trying to get MuseScore to playback a trill from D to Eb/D#. Any ideas? I know MuseScore is a notation program and not playback, but I have to submit a MIDI recording and it won't sound good unless I can get it to trill to Eb. Thanks in advance! Also, I"m not interested in using 32nd notes and making them invisible. I want it to look nice on my computer.
~TheBandGeek
Comments
Perhaps this:
1. Write the score using 32nd notes (D to Eb/D#) for the trill.
2. Export/submit the midi.
3. Remove the 32nd notes from the trill (to make it look nice on your computer).
Regards.
Trills move between the current note and the note above. Whether that means a leap of a tone (full-step) or semitone (half-step) depends on the current key signature and whether there are any accidentals earlier in the bar.
Here are two ways to get what you desire:
1. Change the key signature to include an Eb
2. Put a note with an accidental (i.e. an Eb) earlier in the bar
In this case the first trill is between D and E, and the second one is between D and Eb.
Also, using shoogle's suggestion:
A chord can be created with the Eb note, which is then made invisible and silent, using the Inspector.
See the .mscz attachment for audio playback. Click on View -> Show Invisible.
Regards.
In reply to Also, using shoogle's by Jm6stringer
Clever, I hadn't seen that suggestion before!
In reply to Clever, I hadn't seen that by Marc Sabatella
This is disaster. I mean not so playback, but notation problem! Change key signature in whole orchestra ONLY for stupid flat in one instrument. ... Gentleman, a little criticism. Old Encore, Overture, Finale, Sibelius Dorico, StaffPad... all have this function. I like MuseScore because my musicians use freeware. I don't see even a plugin for half-step trill for MuseScore...
In reply to This is disaster. I mean not… by RoMan965
@RoMan965, if you keep reading down the page you'll see a better solution ;)
Ok it's still not perfect, but better than changing the key signature.
In reply to Also, using shoogle's by Jm6stringer
1. A musician playing the printed score cannot distinguish between the two cases.
2. The invisible note leaves behind a tiny stem:
So, to adapt Jm6stringer's suggestion, I'd put the invisible note in voice 2 to avoid the stem problem, and keep the accidental visible and move it above the trill to indicate the trill interval to the musician. (You'll need an invisible rest too now the note is in voice 2.)
This is a legitimate way to notate trills and has been used in real sheet music. See the example at the very bottom of this page: http://www.songsofthecosmos.com/encyclopedia_of_modern_music/T/trill.ht…
In reply to That's a clever approach to by shoogle
Sweet!
Not only trills for playback (as per OP's request), but also valid notation (as per MuseScore's mission).
(P.S. I did notice the stem, and moved it in my attachment.)
Regards.
In reply to Sweet! Not only trills for by Jm6stringer
Well then, if you can see the stem well enough to click on it, you can make the stem invisible, too. You can also use the Inspector tab (Musescore 2.0.3) to make it so that it will not be heard in the playback, but (I think) will still be heard in the trill itself. It's very clever.
In reply to That's a clever approach to by shoogle
How does one silence the note?
In reply to How does one silence the… by Ravenclaw_14
Select and in Inspector untick Play
In reply to Also, using shoogle's by Jm6stringer
Your solution is spectacular! Thank you so much!
Thank you all SOOOO MUCH. This really helped.
~TheBandGeek
In reply to Thank you all SOOOO MUCH. by The_Band_Geek
Not exactly a trill, but how do I score the following? As you see in the attached file, the first bar shows what to do, then the second show a clearer way to score it.
How on earth can I score with pairs of minims connected and crossed through with semiquaver connections?
Thanks,
Clive.
In reply to Not exactly a trill, but how… by Clive68
Ah, some Suppe. I have played that part many many times.
I assume you mean the tremolos (commonly called "wozzles" by UK band clarinettists). See here: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/tremolo
In reply to Ah, some Suppe. I have… by SteveBlower
Steve,
My goodness, till now the only Tremeloes I know were a band of my yoof! Brian Poole. I never stop learning.
Yes, the Suppe is really magnificent, even for a humble third clarinet. The fist page has some lovely groups of thirds bars, but exposed if the sole third clarinet. Gotta gettit right.
The score we were given is spidery and a bit confusing, wondering which note of the many 'chords' to play. One moment of confusion and - completely lost! Musescore prints so magnificently clearly, it is worth the effort to re-score.
Thanks for the tip - a lifesaver.
Clive.
P.S. Weren't the Wozzles some creature on Wimbledon Common? Didn't they have an Uncle something from Eastern Europe? Or is it time for my pills already?
In reply to Steve, My goodness, till now… by Clive68
" Weren't the Wozzles some creature on Wimbledon Common? Didn't they have an Uncle something from Eastern Europe? "
The Wombles of Wimbledon Common... and their Great Uncle Bulgaria Coburg.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wombles