Can't get rid of greyed out rests
I have a song I imported from the Sheet Music Scanner iPhone app. It has some added rests that were not in the original sheet music in measure 10. (see attached.). I saw in another post that you can get rid of the greyed out plus sign by adjusting the measure, which I did. However, the rests are still there. How do I get rid of them?
Thanks,
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Those greyed out rests are "invisible" in that they do not show when you print the score or export it to pdf. If they not in voice 1 they can be deleted. However, I recommend keeping them as it makes life easier if you want to make edits. You can tell if they are in voice 1 by clicking to select them. They will turn blue if they are in voice 1 and the voice 1 button will show as selected.
If you don't want to see them (but still retain them to aid future editing) you can turn off the display of "invisible" items from the view menu - see https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/viewing-and-navigation#visibility-o…. Again, unless they are too disturbing to you I recommend that you keep them showing as you will probably want to select them when editing and would have to turn back on their visibility from the view menu.
In reply to Those greyed out rests are … by SteveBlower
How do you remove them? They should not be there. They are not in the original sheet music. They are affecting the song. If I make them invisible, will they still be played?
In reply to How do you remove them? … by shenaw2016
The real difficulty is that the conversion from the image you scanned has not made a very good job of it. Without knowing what the original score looked like no-one here can tell you how to fix that conversion. It is usually much more trouble to fix a poorly converted image (which most of them are) than to enter the music into musescore manually.
In reply to The real difficulty is that… by SteveBlower
Attached is a copy of the measure from the original sheet. I hope that helps. Seems like you should be able to edit a song and remove a few notes rather than entering the whole thing manually.
In reply to Attached is a copy of the… by shenaw2016
This score is easy to fix with some C + P procedures. I'm on my way to work, but I'll explain a bit later.
In reply to This score is easy to fix… by bobjp
Ok, thanks. Look forward to your post
In reply to This score is easy to fix… by bobjp
As usual it takes longer to describe how to do this than it does to actually do it. Indeed sometimes there are so many mistakes that starting over is a good way to go. But not in this case. To me, the steps here are faster than starting over.
You could also C+P the entire piece into a new score. But you'd still have to deal with measure 10.
In reply to Append 4 measures. Copy +… by bobjp
When I do step 6, I copy measure 10 and paste it, but it looks the same, with the greyed out rests, when I paste it. When I paste it, it just pastes to one measure, not two.
In reply to When I do step 6, I copy… by shenaw2016
Steps 6 - 9 correct measure 10.
When you C+P measure 10 into empty measures you created at the end of the piece, the result is that two measures are created. The first measure ( we'll call it 10a ) has quarter note rest at the end of two of the staves. Enter the needed notes on those rests. You don't need the second measure. Old measure 10 ( in the body of the piece) has to be deleted and and a new empty measure put in it's place. C+P measure 10a into the empty measure 10 spot
In reply to Steps 6 - 9 correct measure… by bobjp
The quarter note rest at the end should not be there. It should be removed. How do I remove it? It should not be turned into a note.
If i understand it correctly, greyed-out notes and rests are caused by having notes and rests that are beyond the time signature. I saw that also with a greyed-out plus sign. When I copied and pasted that measure, the copied measure didn't have the greyed-out plus sign. So, it seemed copying removed the incorrect notation. But, in the case of measure 10, that doesn't seem to be happening.
Thanks for your help on this. I really appreciate it.
In reply to The quarter note rest at the… by shenaw2016
Score needed, please attach it to a reply
In reply to The quarter note rest at the… by shenaw2016
The result of C+P of measure 10 into empty measures at the end of the piece should be this:
![imagine_new_version2.png]( "imagine_new_version2.png")
The notes in the second measure need to be entered into the 8th rests at the end of the first (measure 10a) measure.
Is this MuseScore file what you are after?
imagine new version1 .mscz
In reply to The result of C+P of measure… by bobjp
I went to try to follow your visual but when I went to paste measure 10 at the end, my Musescore crashed. That was happening to me earlier when I was trying to edit the file myself before I entered my ticket.
In reply to I went to try to follow your… by shenaw2016
MuseScore is not supposed to crash. Something in your score is awry.
For the most efficient resolution to your specific situation, please attach the actual MuseScore (.mscz) file.
Explain the corrections you are trying to perform, and especially how to reproduce the crash.
In reply to MuseScore is not supposed to… by Jm6stringer
His score is in the first post. That's what I worked from and was able to fix.
In reply to His score is in the first… by bobjp
@bobjp...
Apparently, somewhere there is a MuseScore .mscz file (not yours) that causes MuseScore to crash. That is, when @shenaw "went to paste measure 10 at the end", Musescore crashed.
The first post contained an .xml file. You were able to fix it and later posted a "visual' which, @shenaw followed, and reported that it didn't work for him:
I went to try to follow your visual but when I went to paste measure 10 at the end, my Musescore crashed.
Again, it is that .mscz file which needs to be attached.
In reply to Apparently, somewhere there… by Jm6stringer
I understand. And it is entirely possible that my instructions were not very clear. Just like I'm not sure what "went to paste measure 10 at the end" means. "at the end" as in the final step? Or the end of the piece? Into the proper blank measure? Did the first part of my instructions work? If so, the second part is not that much different.
A .mscz from @shenaw will be helpful. But I imagine better instructions would have helped also.
In reply to The quarter note rest at the… by shenaw2016
To be clear: greyed out notes and rests are not caused by having notes and rests that are beyond the time signature. Only the little plus sign (that is visible on screen for your convenience but does not print) is used for that. Greyed out notes or rests are present any time you enter a note or rest and make it invisible, or in your case, if the program you are using to attempt to convert a picture of music into actual music thinks for whatever reason it might be appropriate to have invisible notes or rests. That might be because the program is thinking there are not enough beats in the measure and therefore adds some invisible rests to make up the difference, or because it is thinking some particular voice within the measure is not complete and therefore needs invisible rests to fill it out the measure. Or any of probably dozens of other reasons.
In reply to To be clear: greyed out… by Marc Sabatella
In this case, the OP .xml produced two measures with too many beats. Plus signs are over those measures. One error is a missing bar line. The other shows a "grayed out" 8th rest that shouldn't be there. I posted one way to fix the problems.
In reply to Those greyed out rests are … by SteveBlower
Had the same problem after having exploded ≈3 voices of 2 systems into 3 systems. The solution is: replace the greyed out rest with a note and then replace it back again with a rest. Then black it is.
I clicked on them. Went into tools and clicked on remove selected range. You have to be careful as sometimes it deleats notes you need but a quick listen will tell you if that is one that needs to stay.
Hi
I am a newbie but encountered the rogue note problem on the first day after importing a .pdf that was probably imperfect. I figured out a solution that involves splitting the affected bar and wondered if anyone would ever like to try it. This is for MuseScore4
You do this:
Select the rogue note/rest
Go to Tools>Bars>Split the bar before the selected note, click to split the bar. If the note is the FIRST beat in a bar you don't need to do this as the bar line before the note is already there.
Now select the note immediately after the rogue note and create a split in the same way as in 3. If that note is the FIRST beat in the NEXT bar, again, you don't have to do this as the bar line is already there.
Select the bar with the rogue note and delete it
I posted it on the forum here:
https://musescore.org/en/node/348338
In reply to Hi I am a newbie but… by benawhile
Brilliant!!