Removing a staff (voice/instrument) from a system
I want to remove the Voice part from the attached file leaving just the left and right hand piano parts and I can't. When I try MuseScore crashes.
I also need to tidy up bar 1 by removing the greyed out rest and bar 6 which plays improperly (something to do with the plus sign perhaps?).
Any help will be much appreciated.
Best wishes
Brian
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No crash here
In reply to No crash here by Jojo-Schmitz
Uploaded crash report twice using MuseScore crash reporting functionality.
Had another go and have updated the file making some changes; see below
In reply to Uploaded crash report twice… by brianejsmith
Those crash reports are pretty useless meanwhile.
Just take the score I attached, it has the issues fixed
In reply to Uploaded crash report twice… by brianejsmith
Or this
In reply to Or this by Jojo-Schmitz
That's really kind of you but can I ask a favour?
Could you tell me how you cleared up the two issues?
Generally, the one, single biting flaw in MuseScore - and don't get me wrong, I have been a huge fan for years - is it's inability to let you make changes intuitively.
The piece of music you have so kindly fixed for me is something I have to listen to and spot the mistakes or differences. I know that hearing the differences will be relatively straightforward but making changes to the piece will be a very frustrating exercise.
Best wishes
Brian
In reply to That's really kind of you… by brianejsmith
I fixed the 2 measures by right-clicking into them, measure properties, and there changing their actual duration.
In reply to I fixed the 2 measures by… by Jojo-Schmitz
But how did you get rid of the top part, the Voice staff?
In reply to But how did you get rid of… by brianejsmith
I pressed I and in that dialog removed the instrument
In reply to I pressed <I and in that… by Jojo-Schmitz
That's not documented in the User Guide?
In reply to That's not documented in the… by brianejsmith
It sure is, see https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/create-new-score#change-Instrument-…
In reply to It sure is by Jojo-Schmitz
Hi Jojo
I tried to use the Parts management function not the instrument option.
You didn't come back re the difficulty in making rhythm changes to intermediate bars (ie other than the last one).
Is that because I've got it wrong and my problem is my lack of familiarity with MuseScore?
Best wishes
Brian
In reply to Hi Jojo I tried to use the… by brianejsmith
File > Parts indeed is the wrong place for removing an instrument from a score.
(It is for adding/removing linked parts)
And I did explain the rhythm part of the problem:
I fixed the 2 measures by right-clicking into them, measure properties, and there changing their actual duration.
See also https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/measure-operations#duration
In reply to File > Parts indeed is the… by Jojo-Schmitz
Sorry, I see where you are coming from re rhythm changes.
My experience however is that if you change the duration of a note, MuseScore automatically generates rests to balance the bar making it almost impossible to make changes that extend over a bar and, once generated, getting rid of the rests within a bar is almost impossible.
MuseScore is too impatient, sort of, and doesn't give the composer/editor time to sort the bar. It intervenes too quickly. What I think it should do is mark the bar or bars "dirty" and leave it to the user to get it right.
In reply to Sorry, I see where you are… by brianejsmith
See https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/note-input#note-input-modes and https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/note-input-modes#timewise
In reply to File > Parts indeed is the… by Jojo-Schmitz
Meant to add that this isn't the usual understanding of "parts" in music. For example, SATB arrangements are commonly known as 4 part harmony and a chorus leader will talk about "learning your part". I think the handbook should make it clearer, I wasted a lot of time on this and took up some of yours as well.
In reply to Meant to add that this isn't… by brianejsmith
Part has multiple meanings, as has voice
In reply to Part has multiple meanings,… by Jojo-Schmitz
That's why I think the handbook needs more clarity.
In reply to That's why I think the… by brianejsmith
Feel free, it is (like) a WIKI, every logged on user can edit it
In reply to That's why I think the… by brianejsmith
But see https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/glossary#P
And also https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/parts