Fine in the middle of the measure?
Is it possible to have fine in the middle of the measure?
(I know workround - split measure and hidebarline, but it doesnt work in some situations /when in bas thereis wholenote, but in melody quarternote, ...)
And it would be nice to have it native.
Comments
Thanks! I was going to post a request on this very topic.
It's Fine for Fine to be attached to a measure, at it's default onset be the last note of the measure IF there was also a property to specify the beat or sub-beat where the finish should occur.
Alternately, as you've suggested, MuseScore should allow users to attach the Fine to a note and have that mark the finish.
Split the measure, make the barline invisible, exclude it from measure count
In reply to Split the measure, make the… by Jojo-Schmitz
Jojo, I know workround (its in initial post).
![fine2.png]( "fine2.png")
But it is also limited, see:
You cannot to write score above in Musescore
(well, You can, but You need to change tie to slur)
Question is, if "Fine" (an other Jums) couldnt be anchored to segment, instead of measure.
Are there good reasons not to do that?
In reply to Jojo, I know workround (its… by sammik
Standard notation rules might be a good reason ;-)
Strictly speaking, having the Fine where you do now already is throwing some confusion as to whether you need to play the cello note fully or not. A dilemma you've nicely sidestepped by having the fermata in there.. but consider not having that and your situation is a lot less clear.
Having a dotted end barline and a (dotted) tie to the 2nd half makes this a lot clearer imho.
But sure enough, if you really want the notation you've shown, you can get that in MuseScore as well. Hide the split barline, hide the tie and following note; then add an augmentation dot symbol to the still visible note. You'll likely want some additional leading space adjustments to compensate for the non-visible barline now.
See attachment for both approaches.
In reply to Standard notation rules… by jeetee
:) Well, what is "standard"?
Gould "bible", or miriads of published scores?
I think, notation style above is quite standard in published baroque music.
But thanks for workround. Clever (as usual).
In reply to :) Well, what is "standard"?… by sammik
How would you tell whether a printed score has an invisible barline?
In reply to How would you tell whether a… by Jojo-Schmitz
By oldschool method "look'n see" :)
In reply to Jojo, I know workround (its… by sammik
This situation is completely related to the formal structure of the music. It is normal for a piece that starts with a pick-up measure to end with a short measure that completes the same value. So there are already virtually divided measures.
If there is an ending here (in the middle of the measure), all instruments must also be written according to the same complementary case. Yes, the cello can have a sustaining note in the previous pass. But if the end will be here, it is necessary to divide the measure from here and to do the necessary operations in terms of complementarity of the starting measure (writing a second note next to it by subtracting the first value, putting a tie on it, etc.). Or if the ending needs to be different from the previous pass, then a separate "Coda" section should be added.
The above explanation only explains why the current behavior of the software is the way it is.
However, apart from all the rules, it is desirable to write something freely. No one can prevent or object to this.
Of course, this can be done if the software is developed to manage this situation (adjusting the values of other notes according to the duration value of the note marked "Fine").