Just one more reason why Musescore 4.0 sucks!
Working hard on a project and have a great idea - want to save the work first so I can easily revert, so click the save button. Immediately 4.0 begins the long process of exporting audio to save on the cloud -- but I wanted to save to the disk. No way to interrupt the save process, by the time it is finished, the idea has flown out of the window and for the life of me I cannot remember what it was before I hit the save button.
MU-4.0 has one or two advantages and tons of screwed up stuff!!!!!
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Interestingly enough, my copy of MS4 has 5 save buttons. None of which save as audio. What "save " button did you hit?
I think "export" deals with audio. And you have the option to export to the cloud (which I think I've disabled) or your computer.
Indeed, this new version has problems. I agree. But you still have to pay attention.
In reply to Interestingly enough, my… by bobjp
If you save to the cloud, 4.0 will automatically export the audio and upload the audio to musescore.com. It evidently delete the audio file after uploading to the cloud. If you want an audio file that you can access, then you must use the export function just as you did in 3.6 and previous versions. If you wanted to save to the cloud in 3.6, you were presented with a dialogue box with a checkmark you use to tell 3.6 to upload the audio to the cloud. If you checked the box, then 3.6 would export the audio and send it to musescore.com.
3.6 also allowed the user to choose whether or not the upload would create a new document on the cloud or update an existing document. 4.0 simply creates a new document so you loose any comments and the statistics of the original document.
4.0 has a plethora of different menu items and dialogues but they are all aimed at marketing the cloud services of Musescore.com. Muse Group is in this to make a profit and the way they evidently intend to do that by driving users to more intensive use of Musescore.com.
There are so many problems with 4.0 that it is barely usable for serious composition work. The marginally better sounds simply do not justify inconsistencies and shoddy interface of 4.0.
In reply to If you save to the cloud, 4… by Jim Ivy
I have no interest in the .com site. Nor do I feel like I am constantly being driven there. Some things don't work the same way they did in MS3. So? I also have no interest in cloud storage. But that has nothing to do with using the program for composition. Which is my only use for it. And you have to learn what settings need to be changed to get playback to work.
In reply to I have no interest in the … by bobjp
I average over eight hours a day seven days a week working in Musescore. That is all that I do. I have been using musescore since shortly after it separated from MusE. I suspect that I know it at least as well as you do and probably a heck of a lot better.
In reply to I average over eight hours a… by Jim Ivy
How much you know about MS3 has little to do with MS4. All I know is what I've gone through to get good playback. If I can't hear what I'm writing, what button does what (or not) doesn't matter.
In reply to How much you know about MS3… by bobjp
Good.
In reply to If you save to the cloud, 4… by Jim Ivy
3.6 didn't have a "save to cloud" option - that's new with MuseScore 4. MuseScore 3.6 had "save online", which is different. That functionality is still in MuseScore 4 - it's called "publish to musescore.com" now to clarify its function. It works the same way as you describe for 3.6, updating the existing published score as per the "source" field in your scores metadata. I suspect this is the command you should have chosen instead of "save to cloud".
The new "save to cloud" feature is very different. It actually makes the musescore.com version the only copy of your score - save to cloud instead of saving locally. Personally I can't imagine using this; I'd much rather keep my files locally, and let services like Google Drive manage cloud syncing for me. But, it was a pretty commonly requested over the years, so I'm glad it exists, even if it's not for me.
Hmm, it certainly shouldn't save to cloud if you didn't select that. If you can reproduce this error, please open an issue on GitHub with the precise steps to reproduce it. Personally, I recommend selecting the local save and checking the box to not ask again.
And yes, certainly a cancel button is desperately needed, That much is already reported.
Are you sure? When I save a score for the first time or Save As, I'm presented with this dialog box, giving me an opportunity to save to my local disc in Musescore native score format.
I don't believe there was ever an option to Save as audio. If you want an audio file, you must choose Export.
You may not like certain things about Musescore 4, but the save functions are not much different.
In reply to Are you sure? When I save a… by rednoise99
Here's what I think happened - and it's something good for everyone to known and watch out for:
If you ever choose "save to cloud" (either in that dialog when you first save, or later from the File menu), the cloud copy becomes the primary copy. That means, every subsequent save operation you do will go to the cloud directly. When doing this, the audio may or may not be regenerated - that depends on the setting you choose in Edit / Preferences / Cloud (and I think you are prompted about this the first timer you use Save to cloud).
I'm personally not sure I'd ever use the new save to cloud feature, but once you do choose it, the cloud copy is the score - it's no longer saved locally. Unless you choose save as to make a local copy.
That's my understanding anyhow. This stuff is all new so we're all just kind of discovering how it works. But that's my impression.
In reply to Here's what I think happened… by Marc Sabatella
I always save one copy to disk and one copy to the cloud. It is a habit that comes from when I was a systems engineer for Dell and later when I did disaster recovery consulting for the military. Having a copy on musescore.com is very convenient. It not only serves as a secure backup location, protecting my files from the possibility of loss from fire, theft, or natural disaster, it also allows me to easily share a file with someone who may not have the musescore application installed on their device.
It worked wonderfully well in 3.6. There were two conveniently placed icons, side by side. I save to disk after each significant change to my piece, followed by a save to the cloud anytime I finish a work session. Two icons, two clicks, and it was done. The disk version is my primary copy. But the cloud version is never more than one worksession behind the disk version. If I work for two hours and then take a break, before I leave my desk, my work is saved locally and on the musescore servers. The only time that I vary that routine is when I am working from a remote site that does not have any way to connect online. That usually only happens in certain parts of the country where cell coverage is spotty.
"Musescore Before Four" does a lot of things right! The layout may not be stylish, but it is functional and allows anyone who is willing to learn it to do 99% of what needs to be done. The use of vsti and fx technology are interesting additions but I am not convinced that was not a more simple solution than the one that they chose. As for as their implementation of "Note Performer" technology, that is something I would gladly do without.
In reply to Are you sure? When I save a… by rednoise99
Actually they are quite a bit different in terms of usability and workflow. You can achieve the same end, but 4.0 requires a more convoluted path.
In reply to Actually they are quite a… by Jim Ivy
If you only use "Publish to musescore.com" and never "Save to cloud", it should be virtually the same, aside from needing to wait for the audio to be generated. Can you explain what differences you are experiencing?