Two voice duplet
I am trying to enter two voice duplets with different rhythms in the same bar. See bars 2 and 4 of the attached (ignore the second bass clef crochet in bar 1 which should be dotted). The time signature is 6/8. I can create a duplet for the relevant bar, and correctly enter voice one notes, but cannot find a way to create the correct duplet in voice 2 of the same bar. If this is not doable, is there a workaround or plug-in? I am using 3.6, but the same problem arises in 4.1.
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Hey there! Not 100% I understood what you mean, please see attached file. I have two tuplets in two different voices, which I think is what you explained you want to do, but they are not different rhythms... Could you please be a bit more specific?
I am also not sure I understood what you want. Why do you think there are duplets? Your PDF shows nothing of the sort.
![MuseScore 3_ Untitled_ (2).png]( "MuseScore 3_ Untitled_ (2).png")
I would interpret it that way and missed some rests to get a full 6/8 measure:
Green shows voice 2, the green rests can be deleted and the blue ones of voice 1 can be hidden.
In reply to I am also not sure I… by HildeK
They are duplets, but not expressly shown as such. The extract is about 130 bars into the piece where duplets are interspersed with 6/8 bars, but until now only in one voice, and so not a problem.
Your suggestion would not play for the correct duration. All I want to do is to replicate bars 2 and 4 of the original attachment, as duplets as originally composed so that they both look correct and play back correct. Thanks
In reply to They are duplets, but not… by kieranbond
You mean like this?
In reply to You mean like this? by SomeMedtnerGuy
Afraid not, as you have three dotted crochets, and voice 1 is not a duplet in your screenshot.
In reply to Afraid not, as you have… by kieranbond
Sorry, I am "asleep", only now i understood what duplets you mean (I hope!). See attachment. Duplets can be hidden as well if you wish.
In reply to Sorry, I am "asleep", only… by SomeMedtnerGuy
That is what I am trying to create. Process is to select the bar rest, then create duplet, then enter voice one notes, then go to voice two and try again - attachment shows outcome - I have not completed the bar as the rests show the result will be wrong.
In reply to That is what I am trying to… by kieranbond
You have to make a duplet also for voice two. With the pencil selected, voice two selected, the bar you want selected and a dotted half-note selected as well (the duration of the entire bar), press Ctrl+2 to create the duplet. It should give the duplet you need.
In reply to You have to make a duplet… by SomeMedtnerGuy
Resolved, thank you so much. My error was thinking in 2/4 time when creating the second duplet.
Looks more like alternating 6/8 - 2/4 time rather than duplets, could you post the original score ?
In reply to Looks more like alternating… by rothers
Yes, that could be a possibility. But the bass staff then needs a triplet for the second beat in the second voice.
![Mix.png]( "Mix.png")
The time signatures can be hidden.
In reply to Yes, that could be a… by HildeK
For bass measure:
![WithTriplet.png]( "WithTriplet.png")
In reply to Looks more like alternating… by rothers
Third movement attached from start to bar 133.
In reply to Third movement attached from… by kieranbond
Off topic, I know. Looking at bars 78 and 79, I'm wondering why the decision was made to not produce 79 in 6/8. I know the goal here is to reproduce the music as presented. Assuming it is accurate.
For that matter, why isn't 78 in 2/4?
Yes, you want to reproduce what is on the page. A real player may or may not produce what is on that page. They get to do that. That's what makes it music. To that end I just wonder what difference it makes if bar 79 is in 6/8 or 2/4. And of course, not just those measures. The composer/publisher made certain decisions. But the player is the final arbiter. In a sense someone trying to put music into MuseScore is a "player", also. Especially if you want playback to work.