How can I make this score play like I want?
(Segno at beginning of refrain, repeat at beginning of main verse after intro)
what I WANT:
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intro
vs 1, refrain (1st ending)
vs 2, refrain (Huge 2nd ending, includes verse melody in a different key, D.S. )
refrain (3rd ending)
vs 3 (or 4 if you like), refrain to Coda
what it DOES:
everything fine, except when it gets to the 3rd ending it ignores the repeat and falls straight through to the coda, thus completely skipping the last verse. And I don't know how to tell it to go to the coda when I actually want it to. (after the final refrain)
Thanks, I'm in musician mode right now, not tech, and I need to stay here for the next few days.....
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This kind of thing gives me a headache. I wouldn't pretend to know the best answer. But try this version.
I changed the DS, Copied the refrain after the second ending. it made the piece 9 measures longer, but I think is the order you want. Now to tend to my headache.
In reply to This kind of thing gives me… by bobjp
I have moved the Segno from B to A.
I changed D.S. to D.S. al Coda.
The volta 3 I pulled at the coda.
Am I getting close?
In reply to I have moved the Segno from… by Ben Lindeboom
close but it needs to do the refrain after the huge 2nd ending, not go back to the top. Thanks for having a go!
The other solution worked, where they just copied bars. We all hate doing that, but I guess this is a case where ya gotta.
In reply to This kind of thing gives me… by bobjp
Thanks, that works, and I kinda knew I could do that, but I'm kinda allergic to copying sections unless you do something radically different. (Maybe I'll put that extra refrain in Eb too, to satisfy my OCD, but I was rather proud of the progression from the Eb verse back into Bb.) It's to do with keeping my lead sheets down to 2 pages whenever possible, either on ipad or on paper. But it still fits on 2 so it's OK. Hope your headache dissipates quickly, and many thanks! :)
In reply to Thanks, that works, and I… by Tixrus
The problem is between computer playback and human playback. You could add footnotes to your score as is, and humans could play it. But computers? Not so much. And thanks, I'm feeling better after a nap.
In reply to The problem is between… by bobjp
Yeah, it's not really so much about computer playback. I make them for humans but if there's some standard way to do it without copying..... Never really made a study of jumps and repeats as a consumer of scores. They just sort of worked. My bass player is always complaining about charts with footnotes so I want to make them as "standard" as possible. OTOH he chokes on "normal" jumps in the Real Books as well, so what are you gonna do? Practice, maybe?
In reply to Yeah, it's not really so… by Tixrus
Why the reluctance to copy? Keep things simple even if it means duplication. Your players will thank you for not having to fathom a complicated repeat structure. Paper and ink are cheap, rehearsal time and goofs are not.
In reply to Why the reluctance to copy? … by SteveBlower
my people HATE page turns, that's all. They'd all rather draw arrows etc. than turn pages. But if you can copy without making another page, I guess it's OK.
In reply to This kind of thing gives me… by bobjp
How about this.
I made extra Segno(Segno2) and Coda(Coda2).
I think you can figure out from properties of them.
In reply to How about this. by K. Kim
Your suggestion seems to fulfill everything that was required.
In my opinion, however, the Volta 3 is not needed. The result with or without is the same.
In reply to How about this. by K. Kim
Wow an extra Segno. That solves this problem and a lot of other ones. In Italian D.S. stands for "Dal Segno" meaning to/from THE segno, sort of implying that there can only be ONE. But I never read a rule book for MAKING this stuff, just learned what to do when I saw it.
In reply to Wow an extra Segno. That… by Tixrus
You have a lot of options on this topic in MuseScore.
Musescore recognizes labels (Segno, Coda) as jump destinations and these can also occur several times if you give the label different names. A second one is already prepared: Segno Variation. And some others are available if you edit the labels and click on the alpha sign.
And what appears on the sheet music is also customizable, so that you can also use different jump destinations. Just as K. Kim did by using the double segno and coda sign and labeling the jump instruction "D.S.S. al Coda".
![Jumps.png]( "Jumps.png")
You only need to set the markers correctly in the properties and the text in the sheet music should be understandable for the musician and can be adapted as desired.
Examples:
Good luck.!
In reply to Hi I asked this question a… by ted.maciag
You have a lot of entries and I'm not sure which one it is, can't tell by the title. Thanks.
In reply to You have a lot of entries… by Tixrus
I'm pretty sure that ted.maciag's suggestion won't help in your particular case.
In reply to I'm pretty sure that ted… by HildeK
If the measure count isn't set to the proper value once it is reached it will blow right through it. One doesn't really need all of this archaic mapping nonsense in today's PDF world. Unwinding the parts is so much better.
TablEdit allows the user to create a reading list for total control of measure playback by defining sections. Maybe this would be a nice addition to MuseScore. Here's an example from the manual:
The reading list adjusts automatically if measures are added/deleted.
Did you right click on the measure and change the repeat value? That will fix it. Forget all the rest.