Can't get correct playback from Voltas
Hello, I have this following structure of Voltas but I can't get it to playback correctly in my score. I made a small sample version and it worked as intended yet I couldn't get it to work on my main score.
Each has their "Repeat List" matching the text labels as seen. When playing back, it only repeats once and on the second time completely ignores the 2nd and 3rd time and just plows on into the coda.
What I want is for it to repeat like this: (using rehearsal marks on the score)
A, B, C, B, C, B, C, B (dc al coda), A (to coda), D (coda)
Attached is my main score, (not working)
and a small working demo of what I want
I don't get why I can't replicate this on my main score when everything is set up exactly the same in terms of Voltas and repeats and labeling
I understand this may break convention and may be bad for readability but this is for my own personal group and ultimately I don't want several pages of repeated notes.
With that being said, any help is really appreciated!
| Attachment | Size |
|---|---|
| NotWorking.mscz | 149.77 KB |
| WorkingDemo.mscz | 17.19 KB |
Comments
You have the play count set to 4, but then you have 1,2,3 endings. Maybe you should only have the repeat signs and write out everything else, or you can simply write on your score "Return to section X and play to the sign". You may want to experiment with Da Doppia Coda, D.C. al Doppia Coda, D.S. al Doppia Coda, Dal Doppio Segno, D.D.S. al Coda, D.D.S al Doppia Coda, and D.D.S al Fine.
In reply to You have the play count set… by FBXOPWKDOIR2
That's exactly how my working score is set up. And it's...working. So why doesn't it work on the main score??
In reply to That's exactly how my… by h5b5z2g6rx
> So why doesn't it work on the main score??
It's an unusual way of using voltas, and I'm a little surprised that it works.
The difference between the two versions are the settings of measure 49 in the main score: the play count must be 4, currently it is 2. It is 4 in your demo file (measure 8).
In reply to > So why doesn't it work on… by HildeK
Where do you see this play count? I only have repeat list and text when I click on the Volta
In reply to Where do you see this play… by h5b5z2g6rx
Right click on measure 49 (with the end repeat bar line) and view its properties. It is not a property of the volta but of the measure!
In reply to Right click on measure 49 … by HildeK
And you must select all of the measures between the repeat mark otherwise alien invasion
In reply to And you must select all of… by FBXOPWKDOIR2
Changed the play count to 4, still doesn't work as intended
In reply to Changed the play count to 4,… by h5b5z2g6rx
Perhaps I have misunderstood what is intended. But it corresponds to your WorkingDemo and what you described here: A, B, C, B, C, B, C, B (dc al coda), A (to coda), D (coda)
When I set the play count of m.49 to 4, it plays section A, then sections B and C three times except Volta 4 (m. 33). Then section B to m. 33 except m. 32 (Volta 1,2,3), then D.C. al Coda to m. 11 and then jumps to D to the Coda.
At least this is how it works in MuS 3.7. See the appendix, I only changed the play count value.
See the appendix, I only changed the play count value.
As I said: the use of the voltas in measures 32 and 33 is unusual to say the least. So it could easily be that MuS 4 behaves differently.
Voltas are used to mark alternate endings for repeats. Their use mid-passage is not standard and not obvious to many musicians.
In reply to Voltas are used to mark… by underquark
Respectfully, I am aware of this and already covered it in my post. I was very clear about handling this and how it's a non-issue. This isn't a professional score that I will release to public. Its for my own personal use where to us it's plenty clear for what we need to do
In reply to Respectfully, I am aware of… by h5b5z2g6rx
Just flagging it up as a potential cause of problems and another variable to consider. Programmers adhere to convention and voltas in a non-standard place may well be, by chance, a non-issue in one version of the program or in a particular score but have unpredictable results in a later version of the program or in another score.
In reply to Just flagging it up as a… by underquark
I understand and I don't mind doing it the wrong way I'm just struggling to understand this inconsistency as to why it works perfectly fine on 1 score but not another despite having the same exact setup
In reply to I understand and I don't… by h5b5z2g6rx
But it isn't the same setup. The Notworking file has repeats set to 2 and the Working file has repeats set to 4. You said that you had changed this and it still doesn't work - post that new score, please, so we can see if the changes have taken effect or if there is a bug.
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In reply to But it isn't the same setup… by underquark
Here is my adjusted one
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Here's how it looks for me on measure 50
In reply to Here is my adjusted one Here… by h5b5z2g6rx
Measures 31 thru 34, I presume you intend 31 and 32 to be played three times and then 33 and 34 the fourth time but you have the Repeat list set to 1 and 2 respectively with no 3 or 4 anywhere.
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In reply to Measures 31 thru 34, I… by underquark
Ahhh yes! I forgot I changed that to 1 and 2 as a work around since it didn't work with 4 repeats. But now it's all working properly. Thank you so much!
My dear, you should add a right repast sign before the bar No.33……