Problem with Dynamics
The new MuseScore version ( which is 4.4) has a new problem with the dynamics. Whenever there is a crescendo or dimunendo (including hairpins), during playback if there are staccatos (or any articulation) on the notes, it will sustain the notes that the hairpin covers (making them an infinite duration unless the playback is paused). Here is a following example of where this problem persisted in my scores:
These quarter notes in this scherzo have staccatos on them, and are sustained, which kind of makes my ears hurt too (but what hurts the most is the fact that the playback is all messed up).
I hope this problem does not persist and would be fixed as soon as possible.
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Without your score, we can't tell what is happening. Does this score work on your system?
In reply to Without your score, we can't… by bobjp
The scherzos from my Symphony No. 17 and the incomplete Symphony No. 19 has this problem with most instruments.
In reply to Without your score, we can't… by bobjp
Your score works for some reason.
In reply to Your score works for some… by cheeseschrist
I listened to most of 17 without hearing an issue. Is there a particular place?
My score works because of the way I set it up. I first applied the dynamics. Then I range selected the notes in between (but not including) the dynamics and applied the hairpins. Plus I always put a dynamic at the end of a hairpin, just to be safe.
In reply to I listened to most of 17… by bobjp
This is what I usually do (except I sometimes don't put dynamics at the end of hairpins). However at measure 44 for 19's scherzo, the French Horns part always has the sustain note problem (at least whenever I try to use playback).
In reply to I listened to most of 17… by bobjp
I have an audio sample of the problem in No. 19 but it is not letting me upload it, so I linked a small part of the score that is cut from the original score (from measure 9 of the cut score).
In reply to I have an audio sample of… by cheeseschrist
Played fine for me. If you put your audio in a zip file, you can post that. What happens if you reenter the dynamics and hairpins in measures 9-12? And a dynamic in 13. Odd as it may seem, sometimes something earlier in the score can cause this. I recall one time someone put (or it was leftover from a down load) a pizz in a tuba part. The part played normally until about 20 measures later when it held a note till the end of the piece.
In reply to Played fine for me. If you… by bobjp
Here is the ZIP file, where the playback has been affected (starting from the same measure). There are countless other scores by me that has this problem, but it is difficult to list them all, so I put the exported audio from the part that I was talking about in the score above (where it has the sustained note problem).
In reply to Here is the ZIP file, where… by cheeseschrist
Interestingly, on my system there is no problem with the horns. But the next to last Picc note holds for several beats. It plays correctly if I remove its staccato OR I remove the hairpin under that measure.
When I get a chance, I will create a score from scratch to see if it is something in your score or not.
In reply to Interestingly, on my system… by bobjp
I need the hairpin because I wrote both scherzos before 4.4, and before the update it is fine. I now regret instantly clicking the update button as soon as it comes out (I do the same for Minecraft). I wasted hours trying to figure out what is going on, and now I have to go back to writing piano scores on paper. Does the hairpin work for you? (In the exported MP3, the horns are sustaining the note which is also in the playback)
In reply to Interestingly, on my system… by bobjp
This is my other account I forgot to log out on my mobile
In reply to Interestingly, on my system… by bobjp
I'm on this account now. If there is no problem does it mean your version is 4.3? (This problem is only in 4.4)
Hello.
I have the same problem since version 4.4. It happens with both crescendos and diminuendos (including hairpins) when the notes have articulations on them (typically staccatos). Some notes (for several instruments, the sound is too messy for me to be able to count how many) will be sustained for no reason, apparently until the same note is played again (so it is not an infinite duration in my case). Pièce101_Symphonie_III_Allegro_scherzando_report.mscz
In reply to Hello. I have the same… by Esteban J. H. D.
This is preventing me from completing these four symphonies (17-20). I am half done with each symphony but it is preventing me from using playback to listen to them (usually for harmonic quality).
In reply to This is preventing me from… by thanossmellsb
For MS Basic only - Muse Sounds work as expected.
In reply to For MS Basic only - Muse… by cadiz1
I am using MS Basic for these parts that have the problem. I have othet soundfonts but am using it for Oboe, English Horn, and Trumpet, which don't have the problem.
I get the same problem with this section in a WIP string orchestra piece. This update is the cause because I just ported my score over from my laptop which doesn't have the update yet.
In reply to I get the same problem with… by agitated_cat
Interestingly, it seems to work fine if i only remove Some of the staccatos, only beats 2 and 5 seem to be causing the issue and the staccatos work on beats 3 and 6
In reply to Interestingly, it seems to… by agitated_cat
It also works fine if I place the hairpins on notes in between dynamics.
Violin measures 23-24.
Cello and Bass measures 31-32.
That means place the dynamics the notes in between (not including ) the notes with dynamics attached. I learned this many years ago using other software. It has always worked.
Where there other instances of this in the piece? None that caused a problem. While that seems inconsistent, I would be tempted to say the bug is in the earlier versions. This version might be trying to playback something that is not entered correctly.
3 different users have the issue in this thread, you need to report it on github guys, otherwise it won't be known nor corrected by the musescore team.
In reply to 3 different users have the… by frfancha
It was already reported here https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/issues/25831
and here
https://musescore.org/en/node/372791
https://musescore.org/en/node/372814
https://musescore.org/en/node/372848
https://musescore.org/en/node/372859
https://musescore.org/en/node/372873
https://musescore.org/en/node/372970