Underscore shortcut (Ctrl + Shift + _) not working
Hi,
The shortcut for a real underscore -- ' Ctrl + Shift + _ ' -- is generating a box with a question mark, indicating that musescore doesn't recognise it on my computer. Has anyone else had this problem?
Thanks in advance,
David
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A font text problem installed on the machine?
Version / revision of MuseScore you are using (eg version 2.1)
Operating system being used (eg Windows 7, macOS 10.12 or Ubuntu 14.04)
Here, on Windows _ = Shift + _
Check: Edit/Preferences.../Shortcuts
I've never tried to enter a normal _ into lyrics before, but I see the same thing happens to me. Windows 10, MuseScore 2.1, QWERTY keyboard. The problem occurs when you press ctrl-shift-_ to get a real underline. If you press shift+_ you get a continuation line that can be extended to several notes and cannot be entered into the middle of a lyric.
In reply to I've never tried to enter a… by mike320
Old tools still usable:
https://musescore.org/en/node/21522
Could indeed be a shortcut conflict of some kind, due to underscore already requiring Shift to access on some keyboards (most US QWERTY ones, probably). Meanwhile, you can enter the underscore via the F2 special characters palette. Go to Unicode / Basic Latin.
In reply to Could indeed be a shortcut… by Marc Sabatella
I don't have a shortcut conflict that I defined or is listed in the shortcuts. I guess you can use ctrl+shift+_ to insert a _ into the middle of a word in a lyric? Or is the handbook wrong?
In reply to I don't have a shortcut… by mike320
into the middle of a word ?
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/lyrics#elision
handbook wrong
where?
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/lyrics#melisma
I apologize but I did not understand
In reply to into the middle of a word ?… by Shoichi
In this picture:
The first _ cannot be entered from the keyboard, you have to use F2 to enter it. The handbook says you can press ctrl+shift+_ to enter it. If you press this key combination you get a ? with a box around it indicating an unknown control character.
See: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/lyrics#special-characters
In reply to In this picture:… by mike320
check if it works (and the change to the handbook)
In reply to check if it works (and the… by Shoichi
Even using right shift it still doesn't work. American Windows keyboards require you to press shift+- to get an _ which is the command to enter a melisma. Since I don't know your keyboard, - and _ are on the same key like 2 and @ on American QWERTY keyboards.
ctrl+shift+- to insert the _ character makes sense, but it doesn't work.
In reply to Even using right shift it… by mike320
for comparisons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTY
In reply to I don't have a shortcut… by mike320
It's not a customizable shortcut. Nor are some of the other sequences like Ctrl+Shift+p for the dynamics "p", etc. Probably they should be. Not sure how complicated that would be. My experience is that most things about text input are more complex than one would hope, I guess because of all the special handling we do for things like underscore, Space, etc.
Anyhow, whether it's a customizable shortcut or not, I'm still guessing somehow it's about a conflict, some keyboards sending different code for this keystroke than we are expecting. Doesn't work on my keyboard either. Might on one where you can generate underscore without needing Shift, though?
In reply to It's not a customizable… by Marc Sabatella
I would be curious if you can insert the _ on other OS's and keyboards. I'm not at all surprised you can since you're in America running windows.
In reply to I would be curious if you… by mike320
To be clear - it does not currently work for me, US QWERTY keyboard on Windows. I don't have any other keyboards or OS's to try.
In reply to To be clear - it does not… by Marc Sabatella
Oops typo! I'm not surprised you can't...
I've just checked with various older (portable) versions: Ctrl+Shift+_ worked in 1.x and 2.0, but stopped working in 2.0.1 (Windows 7, German QWERTZ keyboard)
I wonder whether the fix for #58706: Regression in MuseScore 2—Em dash (—) not supported, edf5413, broke this, or the later 965625b.
In reply to I've just checked with… by Jojo-Schmitz
Almost certainly the former. It deals with parsing, the latter with formatting. Odd that it's been broken so long and not reported though!
In reply to Almost certainly the former… by Marc Sabatella
Indeed very odd, I'd have sworn that this works for me, until I tried it today...
Apparently I last used this a long time ago.
Maybe reverting the 2nd part of that 1st commit? Only its 1st part seems to deal with emdash, or am I missing something here?
In reply to Maybe reverting the 2nd part… by Jojo-Schmitz
Maybe, but I would not trust such a trial-and-error approach here, since these sorts of details is apparently system-dependent anyhow. Even if that happens to work and not break something on one system, hard to say without understanding better what effect it would have on another. If nothing else, we'd want to check on Mac since that is where the original issue appeared.