Chord Symbols with Natural Sign
Is it possible to create a chord symbol with a 'natural' symbol? I realize that I could specify the numeric degree with just a numeral. However in this context which is 'educational' I want to 'flag' the musician that a Natural 9 should be played.
For example: C-7b5 in most contexts is a Locrian mode with a b9
I want to 'explicitly' indicate that C-7b59 to maps to a Locrian Natural 9 (or Locrian Natural 2) scale (melodic minor mode) in a context where it may not be 'obvious' (e.g. less experience musician).
Desired result: C-7b5[natural_symbol]9
Any ideas to make this work?
Comments
I don't believe there is a MuseScore shortcut key that will insert a natural sign. However what you can do is use the unicode symbol for natural (♮) and simply select that from my comment here and paste it into a chord symbol before the 9.
In reply to I don't believe there is a… by ericfontainejazz
Looks fine for non-jazz style:
Unforutnately, doesn't look nice with Jazz Style for chord symbols:
(It seems that natural sign is not super-scripted)
In reply to Looks fine for non-jazz… by ericfontainejazz
ericfontainjazz,
Thanks for your response.
FYI: I found that the Unicode value for the natural sign is: 266E If using Windows and/or MS-Office, there are several methods for entering a Unicode character using the numeric code. Can also be found in the Character Map for the Segoe UI Symbol font.
If I enter a half-diminished chord, the 'flat' symbol is super-scripted:
![Chord4.PNG]( "Chord4.PNG")
![Chord5.PNG]( "Chord5.PNG")
![Chord3.PNG]( "Chord3.PNG")
If I add the natural 9, font is correct, but i lose the super-scripting for the 'flat' symbol. Presumably, this is because this chord is not 'recognized' by Musescore as a 'valid' chord. Adding 'just' the '9' exhibits similar behavior.
However, for my limited purpose, this works as I had intended. Jazz purists will likely scoff, but for the purpose of conveying ('hitting one over the head') that this is an 'all' melodic minor progression, it does the purpose:
Locrian ♮9 mode | Altered mode | Melodic minor mode
F melodic minor | Ab melodic minor | C melodic minor
Thanks again for your help.
Ken
In reply to ericfontainjazz,… by EulerOperator
great. That workaround will have to do for now. The presence of the unicode natural symbol is probably confusing MuseScore, thus it doesn't know how to digest the characters making up the chord symbol anymore. But I hear there will be some advancements with chord symbols for 3.0, so hopefully a way to input extra symbols such as natural signs will be addressed.
In reply to great. That workaround will… by ericfontainejazz
You can just type out "natural" in your chord symbol and press space. MuseScore will replace it by the natural symbol.
In reply to You can just type out … by [DELETED] 5
In my testing it didn't work in the part of the chord that is supposed to be superscript.
In reply to In my testing it didn't work… by mike320
(using jazz style:) D7b5natural9 is worked for me
![nat.png]( "nat.png")
edit - correction: workesd=>worked
In reply to using jazz style:… by Ziya Mete Demircan
NO. The natural sign should be super-scripted the same way that the flat of the b5 is super-scripted.
Btw, can someone remind me how to get the jazz symbols font looking like yours?
In reply to NO. The natural sign should… by ericfontainejazz
Style Menu => General => Chord Symbols...
Appearance
o Standard o Jazz o Custom
In reply to Style Menu => General =>… by Ziya Mete Demircan
ziya, I know how to apply the Jazz style for chord symbols. But your font is different from mine. What is that font and how did you tell musescore to use it for chords?
In reply to ziya, I know how to apply… by ericfontainejazz
It may be due to the following font I added to the system :)
I didn't change anything because the system considers it to be the same font. (due to internal name)
In reply to In my testing it didn't work… by mike320
I must have been typing something wrong. Same version different results.
See #166161: Ability to have natural sign in Chord names.