Suspension Cymbal
So I want to use a suspension cymbal sound for a build up. Having the normal cymbal crash sound isn't going to work for me. I run Linux Mint 18. I looked into it and found out about SoundFonts. The instructions on how to install SoundFonts were vague. If anyone knows of a SoundFont that has a suspension cymbal sound and knows how to get it on Linux Mint 18 and can provide clear instructions on how to get it, it would be very helpful. Also, the version of MuseScore I have is 2.0.2. Is that too old? If it is can someone give clear instructions on how to get a newer version?
Thanks,
One confused Composer
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That is indeed a pretty old version. If your particuar Linux distribution doesn't include the latest (2.2.1), then see the Download menu at the top of this page to get the AppImage version for Linux.
Unfortunately, as far as I know, the General MIDI standard does not define a suspended cymbal sound. The way I usually create one is to use a roll (tremolo) on the ride cymbal. It's not super convincing, but certainly better than crash.
Probably there does exist a non-GM soundfont that includes suspended cymbal sounds directly, but I'll let others chime in with their experiences, since I have none.
In reply to Unfortunately, as far as I… by Marc Sabatella
Marc,
When I try to open the program, it says
The file "MuseScore-2.2.1-x86_64.AppImage" has no known programs associated with it. If you trust the source of this file, and have sufficient permissions, you can mark it executable and launch it. Or, you can use the Open With dialog to pick a program to associate it with.
Do you know what I need to do to fix this?
In reply to Marc,… by Perplexity
Exactly what the message says :-). Mark the file executable and run it again.
In reply to Exactly what the message… by Marc Sabatella
Oh duh XD.
I think I can figure everything out from here. I'll come back to this page if I have any more issues. Thanks for the help!
In reply to Exactly what the message… by Marc Sabatella
Generally a Suspended Cymbal is actually a Single Crash Cymbal on a Stand played w/ Sticks so I could do a 32nd note Tremolo on the 1st Crash Cymbal to get that sound.
In reply to Generally a Suspended Cymbal… by s1114182721
I think that we’re looking for a cymbal roll type thing played with soft mallets from a marimba or something
In reply to I think that we’re looking… by amlasorsa1
It's really a Crash Cymbal Roll getting louder as you hit it harder
In reply to It's really a Crash Cymbal… by s1114182721
Yes and no, it’s like that but without any sound made by the contact with the cymbal
In reply to Unfortunately, as far as I… by Marc Sabatella
I use Sonatina soundfont "Cymbals" instrument for a suspended cymbal sound. You can hear a sample in https://clyp.it/3ulk5tut?token=1c3dafdf48d309a967e290c982441354 (can't post this score fragment here, as the musescore.com's upload with audio feature seems to choke (keeps processing forever the audio).
In reply to I use Sonatina soundfont … by mdi1972
This is an orchestral cymbals.
A pair of cymbals (One for each hand, with leather handle) and playing with struck (clash) against each other.
Suspended cymbals is different. a hanged single cymbal played with a stick (or soft mallets or any other similar thing).
Crash and Ride cymbals (in a drum-set) are already in the suspended cymbals category.
Hanging (Mounted) Orchestral cymbals are also used these days (with a suspender) .
However, due to the different playing techniques used, it can be very difficult to find all the necessary samples/sounds/articulations in a sound-font.
In reply to This is an orchestral… by Ziya Mete Demircan
Never knew that...never lie down without knowing one more thing. Thanks Ziya
http://polyphone-soundfonts.com/en/files/22-unpitched-percussion/316-or…
In reply to http://polyphone-soundfonts… by ♪𝔔𝔲𝔞𝔳𝔢𝔯 ℭ𝔯𝔞𝔣𝔱𝔢𝔯♪
Suspended cymbals, including rolls, will be included in the new percussion soundfont for 2.3.
https://musescore.org/en/node/271033
In reply to Suspended cymbals, including… by Daniel
Until then, you can use this:
http://polyphone-soundfonts.com/en/files/22-unpitched-percussion/316-or…
It has suspended cymbals.
In reply to Until then, you can use this… by ♪𝔔𝔲𝔞𝔳𝔢𝔯 ℭ𝔯𝔞𝔣𝔱𝔢𝔯♪
ok so i downloaded the soundfont and it works but it changed all my pitched instruments to unpitched per. how do i assign it to only the parts i want to change the soundfont for?!
In reply to ok so i downloaded the… by Mason10130
In the synthesizer move it below any soundfonts you are using. You can then use the sounds from that soundfont only for the instruments you want by selecting the sounds in the mixer (F10).
In reply to Until then, you can use this… by ♪𝔔𝔲𝔞𝔳𝔢𝔯 ℭ𝔯𝔞𝔣𝔱𝔢𝔯♪
http://polyphone-soundfonts.com/en/files/22-unpitched-percussion/316-or…
That link sends me to a webpage telling me
"403 - Forbidden
Access to this page is forbidden."
If there's a solution/different link that would be cool
In reply to http://polyphone-soundfonts… by amlasorsa1
just go to
https://www.polyphone-soundfonts.com/
>Soundfonts>Percussion, and maybe you find what you need (but you cant always get what you want)
regards
In reply to Suspended cymbals, including… by Daniel
where they at uwu
In reply to where they at uwu by Ilovedogstbhidklmao
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I'm not sure if it's a sound included with musescore or not, but i found a sound in the mixer called "Reverse Cymbal" which sounds like a cymbal roll that just abruptly ends, like a reverse cymbal sound, though it might not sound the best
This SoundFont has been a lifesaver. I had always needed a suspended cymbal/cymbal roll sound, and it took me forever to find this one. It's not very customizable (as in it can only be a certain length), but it at least gets a good cymbal roll sound.
In reply to This soundfont has been a… by sircodyalan
Could you give a process in how to get it work? I imported it in but it seems to not do anything.
In reply to Could you give a process in… by bustersword94
You don't need that anymore - Muse Sounds now provides a fantastic suspended cymbal, no third party soundfont required.
In reply to You don't need that anymore … by Marc Sabatella
where?
In reply to where? by jerevuorio
Within the Muse Percussion set, of course.